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  • #61
    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    Nobody is saying Floyd wouldn't be competitive vs Sugar/Hearns but to beat that caliber fighter you need more than just defense and ring iq.

    I don't buy the Floyd is too small excuse that Big Dunn and Roadblock are trying to push. Those guys were just downright better and above that, victorious under different types of situations being ouboxed/knocked down. Sugar Ray was being soundly outboxed by Hearns, dug deep and stopped him. Knocked down by Kevin Howard and Donny Lalonde, got up and stomped mudholes in those guys. Lalonde was a much bigger guy.

    Floyd who knows man he just wanted easy fights never wanted to test himself and it's because we don't know what Floyd would do if faced with adversity. That's why I wouldn't pick him over either guy. Benitez either. Terry Norris or Tito either.
    I never posted anything like that. I said Floydâs prime was 130-135, which it was. Hearns prime was 147. You canât make that untrue.

    This is why guys that suck Mannys knob should not comment about the sport. They dont know the facts.

    You werent alive or following the sport when Ray had these fights. If alive, You were a baby sucking on a Manny nutsack shaped binky.

    Lalonde was fighting down at168, having fought the majority of his career at 175. That is the primary reason why he tired and Ray kod him.

    The kd was a flash one Ray got right back up from. Ray beating Howard after the kd wasnt about Ray being great. 2 fights before Howard lost to some bum named Medial or Medall. Kevin got that fight by barely beating some dude that was like 4-4 if I remember correctly, after Marlon Starling smacked Kevin around.

    Howard was like Thurman- looked so bad the fights before the big name picked him because its an easy win.

    We absolutely know what Floyd will do when faced with adversity- he showed that in the fight you called for in the thread you lied about making that Irondanhamza exposed- Shane Mosley.

    Ate those shots and came back to dominate.

    You wouldnt pick Floyd because he belittled and lacked respect for your favorite boxer, called him out for PED use and beat him.

    As for easy opponents-History shows Floyd wasnt the one that refused PED testing, got fake stitches, and turned down $40 mil for lesser money for easier opponents.

    He also wasnt a guy that waited to rematch a guy like Morales he lost to until after Zahir Raheem destroyed him, making him easier to beat.


    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-12-2023, 02:26 PM.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

      Yeh maybe Pac has better chance against prime Hearns than Floyd did. Pac beat Margarito didnt he who had height and reach and weight on Pac. Plus Pac would fight Hearns, history currently shows Floyd wouldnt have!
      You definitely have an argument

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      • #63
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        I never posted anything like that. I said Floydâs prime was 130-135, which it was. Hearns prime was 147. You canât make that untrue.



        I don't have to make it untrue the man was still in his prime @ 147 he was 28 years old. Since when is a 28 year old undefeated fighter not prime.

        Oh I forgot I am talking to somebody who lives in Floyd boy land.

        If you want to say his best weight is 130 or 135 ok but just because he moved up to 147 he is not in his prime gtfoh.

        Last edited by djtmal; 06-20-2023, 01:44 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post


          Lalonde was fighting down at168, having fought the majority of his career at 175. That is the primary reason why he tired and Ray kod him.


          We absolutely know what Floyd will do when faced with adversity- he showed that in the fight you called for in the thread you lied about making that Irondanhamza exposed- Shane Mosley.

          Ate those shots and came back to dominate.

          You wouldnt pick Floyd because he belittled and lacked respect for your favorite boxer, called him out for PED use and beat him.

          As for easy opponents-History shows Floyd wasnt the one that refused PED testing, got fake stitches, and turned down $40 mil for lesser money for easier opponents.

          He also wasnt a guy that waited to rematch a guy like Morales he list to until after Zahir Raheem destroyed him, making him easier to beat.

          Sugar Ray/Lalonde was a catchweight fight they met in the middle at 168 Sugar Ray could have gassed as well and was clearly past his best so keep your Lalonde tired excuses it wasn't like one of those fake catchweight fights like Floyd did to that lightweight.

          Honestly I don't know which was worse welching that lightweight Juan Marquez on the scales, or you still talking about Shane Mosley news flash Shane Mosley was 38 and almost two years out of the ring by the time Floyd finally got the courage to fight him. Nobody gives Floyd much credit for beating a pushing 40 fighter except you and Roadblock will make some excuses, and we certainly ain't saying he beats Srl or Hearns or hell even Benitez because of beating an ancient Mosley, but we know you gonna make more out of what it was because pedestalizing mediocrity is what you guys do best.

          Floyd could have fought/beat a prime Manny Pacquaio to help him with these fantasy fights that nobody gives him a chance at, but the truth is he was too scared to fight Manny, he ducked out of the welterweight division for two years and avoided some hard hitting welterweights (official Floyd boy excuse was his hands was hurting) because he just didn't want to test himself. Just wanted those easy fights, always looking for the lowest risk possible for that 30 million guarantee, and now its pathetic to see you guys crying on here when these threads get made and nobody gives Mayweather, despite being 50-0, any chance against some of these top 5 all time welterweights.

          We keep telling you man if Floyd would have just fought/beat the best fighters in their prime, you wouldn't be on here sounding so emotionally butthurt.
          Last edited by djtmal; 06-20-2023, 02:06 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post


            I don't have to make it untrue the man was still in his prime @ 147 he was 28 years old. Since when is a 28 year old undefeated fighter not prime.

            If you want to say his best weight is 130 or 135 ok but just because he moved up to 147 he is not in his prime gtfoh.

            Lets apply your pole smoking logic in this post to Hearns.

            At the similar age Hearns had a fight at LHW then went back to MW.

            147 lb prime Floyd fighting 175 lb prime Hearns. Yet youre arguing with Roadblock that he isn’t too small.

            Lmfao.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-20-2023, 01:52 PM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              Yeh maybe Pac has better chance against prime Hearns than Floyd did. Pac beat Margarito didnt he who had height and reach and weight on Pac. Plus Pac would fight Hearns, history currently shows Floyd wouldnt have!
              He didnt fight Zahir Raheem, Zab Judah or Paul williams. He refused to fight Floyd multiple times. They have the kind if jabs that Manny was afraid of.

              There is no proof hed fight Hearns because he fought a drained Margs where Bob gave Manny every advantage.

              You’re giving him the benefit solely because you are a nut gobbling stan.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-20-2023, 01:55 PM.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                Utter nonsense. Hearns at 23 had been in with Leonard, Cuevas, Espada, Shields, Weston etc. He was a seasoned fighter by 23.

                Hearns at 22/23 knocks any version of Mayweather out, it’s a physical mismatch!
                Dude had his glove touch the canvas once in his entire career, now he's 100% getting KO'd.

                Not likely. And I stand on my statement.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                  Sugar Ray/Lalonde was a catchweight fight they met in the middle at 168 Sugar Ray could have gassed as well and was clearly past his best so keep your Lalonde tired excuses.

                  Honestly I don't know which was worse welching that lightweight Juan Marquez on the scales, or you still talking about Shane Mosley news flash Shane Mosley was 38 and almost two years out of the ring by the time Floyd finally got the courage to fight him. Nobody gives Floyd much credit for beating a pushing 40 fighter except you and Roadblock will make some excuses, and we certainly ain't saying he beats Srl or Hearns or hell even Benitez because of beating an ancient Mosley, but we know you gonna make more out of what it was because pedestalizing mediocrity is what you guys do best.

                  Floyd could have fought/beat a prime Manny Pacquaio to help him with these fantasy fights that nobody gives him a chance at, but the truth is he was too scared to fight Manny, he ducked out of the welterweight division for two years and avoided some hard hitting welterweights (official Floyd boy excuse was his hands was hurting) because he just didn't want to test himself. Just wanted those easy fights, always looking for the lowest risk possible for that 30 million guarantee, and now its pathetic to see you guys crying on here when these threads get made and nobody gives Mayweather, despite being 50-0, any chance against some of these top 5 all time welterweights.

                  We keep telling you man if Floyd would have just fought/beat the best fighters in their prime, you wouldn't be on here sounding so emotionally butthurt.
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                  You werent alive when the fight happened. I saw it live on TV. Lalonde was drained and fighting 7 lbs down. That is why he tired and lost. You can make up whatever BS you want. You cant change the truth.

                  Lets say you picked top 5 ATG ww over Floyd. Ok. Floyd fought 12 times at ww. The top 5 ww had 2-3 times as many fights at 147 and started their careers there. You think that lessens Floyd. Lmfao.

                  Stop elevating Manny to a level he doesnt occupy. Beating prime Manny, who his pole smokers like you claim was 126, in no way tells us what hed do against a prime ww. Even with the PED use.

                  History shows us the fighter that took the easier fight for less money- Manny- and got ktfo for it. Thats what happens to cowards.

                  Yeah you and other losers fans keep saying that. Yet they all waited to fight Floyd. Odh, manny, shane. They all came up with excuses to wait to fight Floyd. All lost when they fought him.

                  Is what it is. All you can do is lie and pick Floyd to lose fantasy fights.

                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-20-2023, 02:15 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post



                    As for easy opponents-History shows Floyd wasnt the one that refused PED testing, got fake stitches, and turned down $40 mil for lesser money for easier opponents.




                    He is that guy though that put a 0-0 mma fighter on his record and said tbe

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                      Dude had his glove touch the canvas once in his entire career, now he's 100% getting KO'd.

                      Not likely. And I stand on my statement.
                      As big a Floyd fan as I am, if Hearns catches him the way Shane did- he ain’t getting up imo.

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