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Originally posted by cyril layman View Post
He is over rated.Great boxers don't avoid & hide from fighting other great fighters for 7 years.If he was so great & confident in his skills fight Pacquaio when he was still great & had all his skills.When he does fight good boxers when they are still young they are always very close fights or he is given a gift decision.His first fight against Castillo till this day have not met a person or other boxing fan who think Floyd won that fight.The 2 fights with Maidana & cotto were very close fights.Had he fought a young Mosley or Oscar I think he loses.When he beat Mosley who was 39 at the time & seriously hurt Floyd in the second round of that fight,take 8 years off Mosley & he beats Floyd.After 8 rounds against a 35 year old Oscar the fight was even the older Oscar lost steam for the last 4 rounds against the much younger Floyd.The one really great thing Floyd is its fooling the boxing public.You have true boxing fans than you have Floyd fans,the true boxing fans who watch all boxing fights & have been doing so for a long long time know the difference.Floyd fans who only watch Floyd fights are the ones that are fooled.In Robinson's first 129 fights he lost just 1 fight & accomplished that at 147 & 160 weight divisions against the best boxers of the time & didn't hide from anyone,this is what greatness in boxing looks like.I will say it again it is hard to judge Floyd because of his opponents he has fought through out his career against boxers he could have fought when they were in their prime rather than wait to fight them until they are ready to collect social security.All great fighters lose because all great fighters want to fight other great fighters to prove themselves.Floyd does everything he can to avoid them Floyd could have fought Pacquaio after Pacquaio KO Hatton with 1 punch end of 2nd rd but believe after Floyd saw that ko he did everything to not fight him.Imagine Leonard avoiding Hearns for 7 years after seeing Hearns Ko an opponent (as he did alot) as Leonard said that was the biggest fight of his career & he fought the elite like Hagler & Duran.If i was in charge of listing ring magazines top 100 P4P greats i would put Floyd anywhere from 45th to 55th greatest boxer,there are just to many more proven boxers over the last 120 years.
If Pac was clean he would not have refused the tests and the fight would have happened.
I have no problem with Floyd refusing to fight PED users.
Floyd's career looks nothing like Robinson's, but he didn't fight in that era.
When I look at Floyd's career, from 130 to 154 with the guys he's fought, no one else from his era would have that record.
He's the the greatest from his era.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
That means he is spot on.
Any hate is spot on to you that's so obvious, what other threads do you post in that don't have Floyd in them, 99% of replies to your posts slap the sht out of you, so you latch onto any hate from some other moron as your lifeline, how many times have I told you you are a moron that knows nothing about boxing, you cant answer the simplest of questions because you drown every time, lol pathetic.Last edited by Roadblock; 06-25-2023, 09:19 PM.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
What spot on, you mean you being a idiot, yeah I agree.
Any hate is spot on to you that's so obvious, what other threads do you post in that don't have Floyd in them, 99% of replies to your posts slap the sht out of you, so you latch onto any hate from some other moron as your lifeline, how many times have I told you you are a moron that knows nothing about boxing, you cant answer the simplest of questions because you drown every time, lol pathetic.
Make excuses with Floyd quotes for backup, name call like a third grader, anyone who disagrees is a hater who doesn't know anything about boxing. Same tired schtick. Nobody even bothers to respond to your excuses anymore. I know that irks you.
The whole world says Floyd was a cherrypicker, yet somehow because you say otherwise, people are supposed to change their minds, gtfoh
This guy. You claimed to know Jeff Fenech.
You still couldn't prove it by putting one foto of you and Jeff hanging.
Guess what. Not everyone is on the Floyd train. Hooked onto the caboose like you. Well I forgot you riding it with Big Dunn and BodyBagzLast edited by djtmal; 06-25-2023, 10:49 PM.
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Originally posted by cyril layman View Post
Difference Pacquaio fought the best fighters in his weight division (all 8) & fought them when they were in their prime..
Let's relive Pac's resume, shall we-
Fights 1-40, Farmers and food vendors
Marco B. After SIXTY TWO fights (I guess a person is still prime after 50+ fights), he fightsMarco the 1st time
And 4 years later, why not fight again!!!!
JMM 4x (with one *...2-1-1...could have easily have been 0-1-3)...As entertaining as they were, especially the 4th fight, who needs 4 fights to settle a score with JMM ?!?!?
He's a warrior and I'm a fan but, damn. Only Pac needed 4 bites from the apple.
Erik M. After FIFTY fights (I guess a person is still prime after 50+ fights) he fights Erik 3x (2-1)....
I'm a fan of all 3 of these guys but let's be honest (), they are not the most difficult fighters to prep against.
They all fight in one speed, in one direction.
One can say they don't mind eating punches or are fleet of foot.
Prototypical Pac opponents.
Moving on......
Between Marco, JMM and Erik, Pac fought legends like Larios, Solis, Velazquez, Diaz
Now we get to his GAUNTLET !!!!
Shot AF DLH*....May did it 1st.
Pac Bois called DLH a glorified promoter when May beat him and that no one ever beat DLH* like Pac did
Well, no one but Pac had the opportunity to fight the absolute worst version of DLH
Hatton....May did it 1st and Hatton is not a W I'd brag about. Hyped AF. I'm shocked Pac didn't put a clause on Hatton !
Cotto. You better believe he put a clause on Cotto*!!!!
Hell no Pac was going to take a chance and NOT put a clause on Cotto.
Pac may look like an idiot but the boy knows better.
Declined to fight Cotto without a *.
4th rate gatekeeper Clottey...pretty much a sparring session (no clause)
Shot AF Margarito*...Again, Pac put a clause on the worst version of a guy !!!!
Less than prime Mosley (no clause)...May did it 1st and better.
Timmy 'Desert Breeze' Bradley 3x (should have been 3-0 but Pac was robbed the 1st fight. Did it 2x times to set the record straight!).
He was aight I guess. Best W might have been JMM.
Baby Margarito Rios (no clause)....Prime or otherwise, this ''fight'' should not have been made
Shot Algieri*. Not sure why Pac felt a needed to put a clause on him.....
MAY....Pac reasoning was he suffered a debilitating arm injury in training camp. No evidence of this injury during any part of the fight.
Some feather fisted guy named Vargas. Of course, no clause
Part time school teacher HORN (CPGW). How this ever got sanctioned still baffles me.
I felt Pac won wide. I've seen drunk ******s fight better than Horn.
This was one L Pac was not interested in setting straight!!!!
Shot Lucas
Shot Broner
Sometime....The one guy Pac Bois cling to
A shot Gatekeeper nearly beat him before Pac did.
Basic AF Ugas
After future HOFer Ugas showed Pac the door, Pac TALKED about coming back to fight Bud and Spence!!!!
What he actually did was ''fight'' a youtuber. Hoping to cash in on the money May is making. He failed.
And there you have it.
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I'm not even sure if any of those farmers and food vendors were prime
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
Shot AF DLH*....May did it 1st.
Pac Bois called DLH a glorified promoter when May beat him and that no one ever beat DLH* like Pac did
Well, no one but Pac had the opportunity to fight the absolute worst version of DLH
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Originally posted by cyril layman View Post
Thanks.I am 55 & have been watching boxing religously () for 48 of those years.Remember when he fought Mosley who was 39 years old at the time & rocked Floyd twice with his right hand imagine Mosley 8-10 years younger what would have happen to Floyd..
A younger Mosley would have been fighting a younger May.
Don't know what kind of point you were trying to make but you failed.
Pac would have been KTFO if that right landed on him.
Pac has been KO'd by worse fighters multiple times.
He fought Mosley immediately after Mosley KILLED Margarito.
The 1 man Pac Bois bend the knee to more than Pac.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
Manny fought the same shopworn version of Oscar that Floyd did, except he beat the brakes off him. Floyd boys been making excuses ever since
The DLH May fought would have slept Pac and no post editing would have saved him.
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