Those damn scorecards yet again. Judges need to have consequences.

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #21
    If Teo loses the 12th round the fight would have ended in a majority draw. Way too close. Here needs to be accountability. These judges should be forced to explain round by round why they scored fights for one fighter over another when it’s clear the fight is one sided.

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    • Toffee
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      #22
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Where they that bad?

      I had it 116-112 Lopez.
      I had the same.

      If you were judging overall performance you'd have Lopez pretty clear, but fights are scored round by round, in the moment.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Toffee

        I had the same.

        If you were judging overall performance you'd have Lopez pretty clear, but fights are scored round by round, in the moment.
        Yeah Lopez was the clear winner but Taylor definitely won a few rounds.

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          #24
          Originally posted by buddyr

          no it's not. Because I've watched fights from the crowd, the apron, and on tv. When I was fighting amateur, before my fights, I'd be in the corner with my coach enjoying the matches. It's really the best seat in the house. Judges get it wrong because they are corrupt. It's simple as that. You are right at the ring literally a few feet from the action. If you can't see or understand what's going on from that distance, then you don't need to be a judge.


          You are dead wrong. The apron seat provides only a singular view, and each judge has a different angle. The judges are sitting in a single position, with ring lights shining straight down on them. Its terrible. I have also sat on the apron at countless shows, and I can assure you it is lousy. Maybe at an amateur show, with no light grid with 200 cans on it, then perhaps it might have been fun. But its a terrible spot to judge a fight from......

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            #25
            Originally posted by OnePunch



            You are dead wrong. The apron seat provides only a singular view, and each judge has a different angle. The judges are sitting in a single position, with ring lights shining straight down on them. Its terrible. I have also sat on the apron at countless shows, and I can assure you it is lousy. Maybe at an amateur show, with no light grid with 200 cans on it, then perhaps it might have been fun. But its a terrible spot to judge a fight from......
            Them lights is hot in the ring even at amateur shows. It feels like a goddamn sauna in that ring. Granted the lights aren't like a $40 million dollar card, but in my opinion, you don't miss things sitting on the ring. If that's the case, then how in the F*K can trainers give advice on what they are seeing to help their fighter in between rounds? Are you saying trainers have a better view than judges while sitting in the corner? If so, should we move the judges to the corners? So basically, everyone in the arena, including trainers, can see what's going on except the judges sitting ringside?

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              #26
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              Let's have it mandatory that the judges have to attend the post fight press conferences and explain their card if they can't make them do it in the ring Live on the spot. Perhaps sounding like a total idiot to millions of viewers is enough for them to quit judging.
              this needs to happen. Cuz there is no way any of those 3 judges in the Canelo vs Bivol fight didn't see what was going on due to their seating arrangements.

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                #27
                Originally posted by buddyr

                Them lights is hot in the ring even at amateur shows. It feels like a goddamn sauna in that ring. Granted the lights aren't like a $40 million dollar card, but in my opinion, you don't miss things sitting on the ring. If that's the case, then how in the F*K can trainers give advice on what they are seeing to help their fighter in between rounds? Are you saying trainers have a better view than judges while sitting in the corner? If so, should we move the judges to the corners? So basically, everyone in the arena, including trainers, can see what's going on except the judges sitting ringside?
                Trainers also only have a single view, but since they have to interact with the fighter and make real-time decisions during the fight, it is not practical to move them somewhere where they can take advantage of multiple camera angles. I do know of several top level well known trainers who have assistants watching the tv feed and texting or telling them what they are seeing

                No worries though, we just disagree. Life goes on..........

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                  #28
                  None of those excuses work because it's not necessary. They could put the judges in a separate room away from the crowd and with access to the footage from multiple angles. They could have space on each card to explain why they gave it to one fighter. There's many many things they could do to make boxing more fair and less corrupt. None of these complaints are new. Boxing hasn't changed because it's corrupt and being kept that way.

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