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  • TMLT87
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    #21
    Whenever the fight happens Joshua will always be the underdog,
    Last edited by TMLT87; 06-08-2023, 02:06 AM.

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    • BoxerWriter
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      #22
      Even the Whyte fight in August is a risk at this stage - if it happens and I hope it does but I think it could be a fun scrap between two faded heavyweights. Whyte can still **** and is capable of landing a crazy looping shot or his patented left hook if Joshua gets careless or drawn into a firefight against his new safety first nature. However, saying that, if they're turning down a Fury fight to wait for a Wilder fight in December in Saudi then you know it's purely about the money. Both fights are risky and there's a big chance he could lose against both, but a Saudi fight is obviously such a big payday they're willing to risk it rather than facing Fury in the UK sooner for less money. While Roy is right it's clearly more about steering Joshua to the biggest money fight than it is gelling with Derrick James (as much as that is true too). I'll actually be shocked if Joshua vs Wilder gets made as it's a genuine career ender for the loser, but if it does, I'll definitely be watching as it should be edge of your seat stuff for as long as it lasts!

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      • Boxviewer
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        #23
        Originally posted by thack
        Joshua is a 'work in progress' he always has been , he always will be and he will never be ready for Tyson Fury. Roy is right , who would expect him to win ? he wouldn't have in the past , he wouldn't now and he won't in the future.
        Nonsensical talk and disingenuous as well. AJ was a two times unified heavyweight champion. Besides, didn't AJ do all possible to make an undisputed bout with Greedy Belly when he was the holder of 3 belts? Did Greedy Belly showed any eagerness then? He didn't, he was uncharacteristically silent and didn't even try to settle Wilder to step aside. He's only trying to manipulate public perception and deflect attention from his coward move on Usyk fight by chasing AJ because he senses he is not in top shape currently. So, let him fight Usyk first which fight everyone wants to see and is the most logical next fight for him instead of playing to the gallery and looking for a way to change the narrative. Nothing has changed, he must stop running and fight Usyk. Obviously he on course to pick another trash opponent to fight as usual. He's only deceiving his guilible, sycophantic fanboys. Unbiased lovers of the sport know his modus operandi, he is only interested in easy money, a lot of money without risking his undefeated record.

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        • thack
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          #24
          Originally posted by Boxviewer

          Nonsensical talk and disingenuous as well. AJ was a two times unified heavyweight champion. Besides, didn't AJ do all possible to make an undisputed bout with Greedy Belly when he was the holder of 3 belts? Did Greedy Belly showed any eagerness then? He didn't, he was uncharacteristically silent and didn't even try to settle Wilder to step aside. He's only trying to manipulate public perception and deflect attention from his coward move on Usyk fight by chasing AJ because he senses he is not in top shape currently. So, let him fight Usyk first which fight everyone wants to see and is the most logical next fight for him instead of playing to the gallery and looking for a way to change the narrative. Nothing has changed, he must stop running and fight Usyk. Obviously he on course to pick another trash opponent to fight as usual. He's only deceiving his guilible, sycophantic fanboys. Unbiased lovers of the sport know his modus operandi, he is only interested in easy money, a lot of money without risking his undefeated record.
          I admire your blinkered support for Joshua , even though it's wildly misplaced , as they say it takes all sorts.You are the same guy who used to go by a different name I suspect Mr.box office , it must be you ...enough said! How you try to disguise an average performance against an average guy in Franklin says a lot. The time is now , so unless you disagree with the great Roy Jones who was not just one of the greatest fighters of modern times but also knows the sport inside out (I had the pleasure of his company one time so know this first hand)....Joshua doesn't beat Tyson Fury ! If they thought he could they would take the fight for the biggest pay day of even Joshua's career, as it stands Joshua does not have an opponent . He could fight Fury at Wembley Stadium for the world title , beat him and then go on to fight , maybe Wilder (which is not signed!) as world champion in the drivers seat , with the championship belt for loads more money than is already being planned (as heavyweight champion) ....but before we get ahead of ourselves and you get too excited , everyone inc. Roy ,who knows boxing (idiots and fan boys aside) know that is why they are looking at fighting two guys back to back who Tyson Fury destroyed .Unfortunately , if the sport worked differently, Ricky Hatton , who most people love would be an all time great but we have to be realistic , Ricky just wasn't that good , I hope you understand what I'm trying to get at here?...... It would save you an awful lot of disappointment , if you did.

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          • thack
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            #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Juggernaut666 believes that, based off his last performance, Joshua would beat Tyson Fury. He really thinks that.
            It makes you wonder how these people get across the road....

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxviewer

              Nonsensical talk and disingenuous as well. AJ was a two times unified heavyweight champion. Besides, didn't AJ do all possible to make an undisputed bout with Greedy Belly when he was the holder of 3 belts? Did Greedy Belly showed any eagerness then? He didn't, he was uncharacteristically silent and didn't even try to settle Wilder to step aside. He's only trying to manipulate public perception and deflect attention from his coward move on Usyk fight by chasing AJ because he senses he is not in top shape currently. So, let him fight Usyk first which fight everyone wants to see and is the most logical next fight for him instead of playing to the gallery and looking for a way to change the narrative. Nothing has changed, he must stop running and fight Usyk. Obviously he on course to pick another trash opponent to fight as usual. He's only deceiving his guilible, sycophantic fanboys. Unbiased lovers of the sport know his modus operandi, he is only interested in easy money, a lot of money without risking his undefeated record.
              I always laugh a little when someone say 2 time champion, when he lost them in the first place. That's like someone returning my Iphone and I become a 2 time Iphone carrier.

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                #27
                All this commotion because of a contender Anthony Joshua.

                Shouldn't Fury be chasing fights with his nearest competition instead?

                Fury made a mistake not fighting Joshua back in December. NOW Joshua has charted his own path, and will pretty much fight for a title again 'When and if he legitimately puts himself in contention'.

                Joshua in-between then will be fighting, and ideally winning 'Building momentum'.

                Fury does not want this, that is why NOW all of a suddenly there is a scramble to make the fight.

                Real boxing people who have no agenda, know Joshua's last performance was solid 'And nowhere near as bad as people claim'.

                Tyson Fury has had multiple below par performances, his last two performances have been nothing special.

                It was very concerning, how Fury refused to engage Chisora head on 'Even after stating he would'.

                Joshua at his worst beats that version of Chisora easily 'Fury has not been fighting at a high level' etc.

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                  #28
                  I wouldn't totally dismiss Josh ability to beat fury even now. Id put money on fury to win, but not get my house on it. If fury did win it would be furys best win or thereabouts
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 06-08-2023, 08:16 AM.

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                  • thack
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    All this commotion because of a contender Anthony Joshua.

                    Shouldn't Fury be chasing fights with his nearest competition instead?

                    Fury made a mistake not fighting Joshua back in December. NOW Joshua has charted his own path, and will pretty much fight for a title again 'When and if he legitimately puts himself in contention'.

                    Joshua in-between then will be fighting, and ideally winning 'Building momentum'.

                    Fury does not want this, that is why NOW all of a suddenly there is a scramble to make the fight.

                    Real boxing people who have no agenda, know Joshua's last performance was solid 'And nowhere near as bad as people claim'.

                    Tyson Fury has had multiple below par performances, his last two performances have been nothing special.

                    It was very concerning, how Fury refused to engage Chisora head on 'Even after stating he would'.

                    Joshua at his worst beats that version of Chisora easily 'Fury has not been fighting at a high level' etc.
                    The funny part about your 'post' , if there is one .Is that you don't understand how ridiculous it is. eg, Fury made the mistake of not fighting Joshua back in Dec.? what planet on you on kid`? Frank Smith CEO match room said it , two weeks after talks 'broke down' it could not happen as Joshua has no trainer, and needs time! we all heard that , although Edward claimed his sponsor's weren't happy . Do you hibernate during these times?....Building momentum , what for he looked decent v Usyk 2 ? Real boxing people know... ? he fought a guy he was supposed to KO but didn't , he said it himself .Franklin like most of Joshua's past opponents is going to do Jack **** that much every knows!
                    Joshua at his worst beats that version of Chisora ...he's that unsure of himself since the Ruiz tanking that I don't think anyone apart from a few odd ones like yourself is sure he does .If your looking for comparisons it's difficult but if you stick to the facts , which I know frightens folk like you then look no further than the two opponents he is lining up , Whyte who's best days look behind him after he was brutalised , not wining a single round and then KO'd v Fury or the second one , who I thinks KO's Joshua but is a big money fight with the daft Saudi's .Another one who Fury brutally KO'd more than once ......really ? Now Joshua has charted his own path , are you real, and you attached your self as 'real boxing people' at our professional boxing gym you'd be laughed at !....Please no more from you.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666

                      Joshua showed improved clinching and neutralizing on the inside in the Franklin fight . You can’t see it because your very limited not just boxing knowledge but overall anything about boxing . Lol

                      Im not sure what Roy’s on either ? When you get a fighter that gets rounds in and is doing everything you instructed him to that’s not a negative . I forget what fighter he was training but I clearly remember him changing his style to mimic his in training camp and got the guy completely knocked out so before you say I don’t know more about boxing then Roy does think before you post ( I know it’s hard for you ) .

                      Calling Joshua’s last performance one of his worst shows who don’t know more about boxing because that statement is completely dumb . Most good trainers and knowledgeable fans will spot the improvements Joshua was working on you wouldn’t be included .


                      Beyond that Joshua isn’t delaying the Fury fight , Fury isn’t even in his plan’s because he’s not being taking seriously and Wilder is a huge guaranteed money fight bigger then the one where one guy might bail out so again Roy completely out of touch with reality , Whyte is just a stay busy fight going into the Wilder one , Fury isn’t even involved here .

                      And lastly Franklin has more a problematic style for Joshua , he’s a tuck low and counter puncher similar to Ruiz where Joshua has to be careful going lower , Fury is upright and a far easier target for him and will take more chances in there with Fury once he’s in the big fight , you’re just to ****** to understand this . Lol

                      Anything else clown ?
                      Right. So you disagree with the training methods of Derrick James, Ismael Salas, and now Roy Jones.

                      Got it.

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