Am I the only one who has Beterbiev above Spence P4P?

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  • RadChang
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    #1

    Am I the only one who has Beterbiev above Spence P4P?

    Beterbiev has brutally KO’ed every opponent in his weight class, Gvozdyk IMO was better than Porter who arguably beat Spence. Moreover Spence couldn’t stop smaller guys like Mikey and Danny who came from 135/140.

    Can you imagine someone moving up from 160 or 168 going the distance with Beterbiev? Beterbiev is clearly the superior finisher and more brutal puncher. He can also stop guys on the backfoot (Smith Jr fight) which I haven’t seen Spence do.

    Don’t get me wrong Spence is still Top 5 P4P in my book but Beterbiev is slightly above him. Now if he beats Crawford fairly that will change of course.
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    I don’t personally but I think it’s a justifiable opinion.

    Both are in my top 10 but I have Spence slightly higher.

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    • _Rexy_
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      I do aswell. But the issue is when you have that much power, people typically don't realize you're a good boxer too. Until the Smith fight people were screaming that Beterbiev didn't even know how to box on the back foot.

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      • Teetotaler69
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        #4
        Spencer shouldn't even be that high.

        Surprised inoue is #1 lol when did that happen?

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        • SplitSecond
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          Beterbiev holds 3 titles, and would kill Spence p4p. So yea. I’d put Beterbiev over Spence. Beterbiev is the superior technician, puncher, Stamina is probably equal, stopped guys on the backfoot, stopped guys with inch punches on the inside. Nothing Spence has over him that I can think of.
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 06-04-2023, 03:48 PM.

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          • GrandpaBernard
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            #6
            Name recognition matters

            Errol fought more known guys

            boxing fans prioritize names

            nvm the actual performance or the condition of the name at the time of the fight

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #7
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              I don’t personally but I think it’s a justifiable opinion.

              Both are in my top 10 but I have Spence slightly higher.
              I agree with this.

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              • _Rexy_
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                #8
                Originally posted by Teetotaler69
                Spencer shouldn't even be that high.

                Surprised inoue is #1 lol when did that happen?
                After Canelo got shut out against Bivol

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                • 4truth
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  Name recognition matters

                  Errol fought more known guys

                  boxing fans prioritize names

                  nvm the actual performance or the condition of the name at the time of the fight
                  Ranked either way is good by me but I do not recognize any logic in this "known guys" factor.

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                  • GrandpaBernard
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    Ranked either way is good by me but I do not recognize any logic in this "known guys" factor.
                    there is no logic to it

                    that’s how strong fighting known guys factor is

                    look at how manny fight with margarito is seen

                    or how fans will list bad defeats to a known guy on a resume when talking legacy

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