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  • Wacked_Out
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    #11
    I read this online,
    'CompuBox sends two operators to sit ringside during a fight, with each person responsible for tracking one of the boxers, inputting all the punches on their laptops using the company's software.'

    That's great as long as the 2 operators arent Morretti and Cheatam types. I think AI needs to intervene and determine which punches actually land.
    I'd like to see the AI be one of the judges and eliminate one of the humans. Or 2 different AI's and 1 human. I am assuming an AI can also calculate the speed and force of a punch and factor that in there in addition to punch count.
    Last edited by Wacked_Out; 06-03-2023, 03:48 PM.

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    • Wacked_Out
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      #12
      Originally posted by SteveM

      Racism and being racist is an arrogance assuming that one race is automatically superior or inferior than another - if you believe that then you have a mindset that will change your reality, change the way you lead your life.
      I notice a person's colour or race just like I notice other physical traits; fat, thin, tall, old, young, happy, sad, angry, friendly, threatening. It all happens in an instant and is part of our defence mechanism as our foremost interest is self preservation.
      I have to ask what is behind supporting a fighter because he is black. I could speculate but any conjecture or opinion would sound much better coming form a black person - not me. But my point is - I think it leads us further away from progress towards a totally non racist society. I don't believe that beautiful dream cant exist - it won't exist in our lifetimes but we should think about 100 years/200 years from now. And be good to all people anyway , as you say.
      I would say you are obsessed now with NOT being racist and I'm saying just let it go. Spread love and it will work itself out.

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      • SteveM
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        #13
        Originally posted by Wacked_Out

        So is the king of England king of Ireland? I have no idea how the UK works. I actually know it's not, but I see UK I just think England. So what's Britain? And where is the Shire?
        Geographically you have the island of Ireland which is politically divided. In he south you have the Republic of Ireland (Eire). In the north you have the country of Northern Ireland.

        On the Island of Britain you have three countries. England, Wales and Scotland.

        The UK full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

        England - Joshua , Fury, Okolie, Leigh Wood
        Scotland Josh Taylor, Jim Watt, Ken Buchanan
        Wales - Joe Calzaghe
        Northern Ireland - Mick Conlan, Carl Grampton Barry McGuigan
        Ireland - Matthew Macklin, Steve Collins

        but Irish is used to describe anybody from the physical island of Ireland

        But Conlan can correctly be described as an Irish and a British fighter

        Any clearer now? Or more confused than ever


        Last edited by SteveM; 06-03-2023, 03:35 PM.

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        • SteveM
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          #14
          Originally posted by Wacked_Out

          I would say you are obsessed now with NOT being racist and I'm saying just let it go. Spread love and it will work itself out.
          not obsessed, but I do have strong feelings on it - agree about the spreading love

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          • M111
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            #15
            Originally posted by BritJimbo

            Thank you. Last I looked, Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.

            He wasnt born in Ireland. He was born in the United Kingdom.

            Get it straight foreigners.
            The article said UK so it was correct. That’s all my point was. According to wiki Conan was born in Belfast - is that incorrect?

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            • BritJimbo
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              #16
              Originally posted by M111

              The article said UK so it was correct. That’s all my point was. According to wiki Conan was born in Belfast - is that incorrect?
              I agree with you. I didnt mean to sound sarcastic, it just comes out that way when I write.

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #17
                ”Firstly, I've not kept count but over the last couple of years of Mexican/Mexican-American versus British/Irish boxers has been a one-sided beat down!”

                Bread: “Yes Mexican fighters are having a field day with UK fighters. “




                Sid-Knee is going to get upset if he reads this.

                And what’s up with that one guy including the name of his realty group in his question? The Mailbag isn’t supposed to be free advertising for your business.
                Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 06-03-2023, 09:57 PM.

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                • The D3vil
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Wacked_Out
                  I read this online,
                  'CompuBox sends two operators to sit ringside during a fight, with each person responsible for tracking one of the boxers, inputting all the punches on their laptops using the company's software.'

                  That's great as long as the 2 operators arent Morretti and Cheatam types. I think AI needs to intervene and determine which punches actually land.
                  I'd like to see the AI be one of the judges and eliminate one of the humans. Or 2 different AI's and 1 human. I am assuming an AI can also calculate the speed and force of a punch and factor that in there in addition to punch count.
                  I've been saying for years, the answer to boxing's problems is robot judges.

                  A.I. just made this closer & closer to reality

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                  • komandante
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                    #19
                    Paulie Malinaggi is the worst racist person in boxing whilst Charles Barkeley was the most racist player in NBA.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by komandante
                      Paulie Malinaggi is the worst racist person in boxing whilst Charles Barkeley was the most racist player in NBA.
                      ———
                      This is is exactly what Malignaggi said when asked about Devin Haney’s RACIST comment;

                      When you’re in your early twenties, you probably don’t express that very well. It’s not something that great to make racial (statements) in 2020, especially with so many racial tensions in the world.”

                      Then Malignaggi delved into dominance in boxing and how throughout history, it has shifted via racial/ethnic lines.

                      “Boxing has had its course in history with certain demographics dominating more than others, right?” Malignaggi said in the video. “Maybe like 100 years ago, Irish fighters were better. And then the ***s and the Italians came in. I think the African-American fighter became most dominant in the sport in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s.”


                      “…it’s not great to have the race discussion because it’s going to coordinate division,” before stating “it’s no longer the time of the African American anymore in boxing.”

                      It’s (the Eastern Europeans) that has become the dominant species in boxing,” Malignaggi said. “I think stating something like (Haney’s statement) could be very dangerous.”

                      With that context, what exactly was racist about what Paulie said?
                      The issue here is the hypocrisy of Showtime. They fired Paulie because of misplaced public outrage but they allow the racist Haney to fight on their platform. This is pure unadulterated hypocrisy. If they are firing Paulie then they should fire Haney.

                      Lastly, where are those outraged people with their misplaced anger on Paulie but dead silent on Showtime and Haney.

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