Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor Warns Teofimo Lopez: Try To Take My Life, Let's See Who Ends Up in an Ambulance!

[Sid-Knee]

He couldn't outbox Canelo clearly. They were really close fights. He struggle with Jacobs and to some he lost to Derevechenko. That shows his boxing abilty. When his power wasn't there to hurt his opponents he struggle, instead of decisively outboxing them.

You said a fighter lacks skill if they didn't beat a legit HOF'er. Well, Chavez didn't. Therefore, going by your "Logic" Chavez lacked skill.

Do you never answer straight questions? How is Golovkin lacking in skill based on not knocking Canelo out? Does Canelo have a shaky chin where he should be knocked out by these guys?

[SunDiego-]

You want some examples of Mexicans fighting fighters that have been out for too long or have another disadvantage against them to have a Mexican want the fight? Sure.

Canelo's whole career. Draining Fielding. Draining Kovalev and having him fight so soon after a war. Then add the fact he was a shot fighter too. Drained Jacobs with a secret contract which he was forced to sign and not be allowed to talk about it. Waited for Golovkin to age then ripped him off twice after losing to him. Gave Callum Smith only 4 weeks to prepare. Yildrim out for 2 years. Chavez shot and drained from LH to 164 lbs. Kirkland shot and out for 17 months etc etc

Lara against Warrington where he was out for 17 months. Lara against Wood where he was out for a year. Weight cheating Wood in rematch.

Munguia who is now fighting a shot Chenko after being out for a year. Draining Rosado from SM to Middle. Johnson who had been out for 15 months etc etc

Martinez went after Gonzales only due to being out for a year and not because he wanted a test. Cherry picked a fighter with 8 fights but still clearly lost to him 8-4 but got the robbery. Picked an even lower ranked fighter but was still losing the fight so had a corrupt ref stop the fight to protect him. etc etc

Cruz fought a Featherweight even though he was offered fights at LW but turned all of them down. Fought a shot to pieces Gamboa. Is fighting another bum etc etc

Zurdo fought a shot Barrera who was coming from a loss and had been out for 2 years and 1 month. Fought a shot Gonzales. Fought a shot Abraham etc etc

Resendiz fighting Hurd coming from a loss and being out for 21 months.

Estrada being prime and the bigger fighter losing clearly to Gonzales but getting robberies in both fights.

Valenzuela fighting Robbie Davies after being out for a year.

Jose Felix fighting McKenna coming from a loss and being out for almost a year.

Zepeda fighting Diaz coming from a loss and being out for 11 months. Fighting Alvarado coming from 3 straight losses and moving up in weight.

Navarrete fighting Joet Gonzales after being out for 13 months. On the verge of being stopped by Wilson but saved by the ref.

Nery fighting Hovhannisyan being out for nearly a year. Weight/drug cheating.

Elwin Soto going after Budler after being out for 13 months.

Are these examples enough? There's many more, but you get the idea. This doesn't go into all the robberies or juicing either.

By this logic it seems like just about every fighter in history has been guilty of cherry picking opponents. You fault Warrington for being out over a year but you could argue that it was him who cherry picked an unknown fighter in Lara who was a major underdog and yet he got knocked out . You could also argue that Warrington did not want to run it a third time and Lara was forced to fight Wood Or how about AJ cherry picking fat boy Ruiz on short notice for his breakout US debut and getting embarrassingly knocked out Or Hatton cherry picking a shopworn Tszyu and barely winning the fight to eventually cherry picking Luis Castillo’s dead corpse and somehow that was enough to get the Mayweather jackpot, or how about Mayweather draining a green Alvarez or making Marquez come up two weight classes and still managed to screw him at the weigh in or how about Khan cherry picking The GARSH Garcia who had just came out of a tough fight against the mummified remains of Morales, or how about Fury shamelessly fighting the remains of Whyte and Chisora or how about Inoue fighting the corpse of Donaire which up to this point in his career is his best win I mean we can go on and on and it’s almost 100% guaranteed that at some point in every fighters career they have had advantages on other fighters. Maybe it’s the UK fighters fault that they get injured so easily and have to step out of the ring?

[Gideon lock]

If you don't beat a HOF'er, you don't have any skill according to you? What? That's a fallacy. Chavez never beat one, but i bet you think he has skills?

Golovkin beat Jacobs, Canelo x2, Murray and the likes. They're elite.

But who did Canelo beat that was elite who didn't have circumstances attached to the fight where they were allowed to fight at their best and not be sabotaged by Canelo?

I usually agree with you sid, but I can't fathom the bolded how is Martin Murray elite or when has he ever displayed any elite traits? His most memorable moment is arguably winning a close decision against a shot knees version of sergio martinez.

[Sid-Knee]

By this logic it seems like just about every fighter in history has been guilty of cherry picking opponents. You fault Warrington for being out over a year but you could argue that it was him who cherry picked an unknown fighter in Lara who was a major underdog and yet he got knocked out . You could also argue that Warrington did not want to run it a third time and Lara was forced to fight Wood Or how about AJ cherry picking fat boy Ruiz on short notice for his breakout US debut and getting embarrassingly knocked out Or Hatton cherry picking a shopworn Tszyu and barely winning the fight to eventually cherry picking Luis Castillo’s dead corpse and somehow that was enough to get the Mayweather jackpot, or how about Mayweather draining a green Alvarez or making Marquez come up two weight classes and still managed to screw him at the weigh in or how about Khan cherry picking The GARSH Garcia who had just came out of a tough fight against the mummified remains of Morales, or how about Fury shamelessly fighting the remains of Whyte and Chisora or how about Inoue fighting the corpse of Donaire which up to this point in his career is his best win I mean we can go on and on and it’s almost 100% guaranteed that at some point in every fighters career they have had advantages on other fighters. Maybe it’s the UK fighters fault that they get injured so easily and have to step out of the ring?

Mexicans and Americans are the ones doing it en mass. No other countries are doing so. But it seems the examples i gave you have brought the fallacies out. Trying to defend it is futile. It's staring you in the face. They're seeking these kind of opponents out. As for all the robberies. I gave you a few, but there are many more.

Warrington should not have been anywhere near someone that active and as big a puncher as Lara. The styles due to Warrington's circumstances was all in Lara's favour.

Warrington had to fight his mandatory in Lopez after getting his title back from Martinez. You don't wait to run it back when Lara has his injury to recover from with a world title there if you want it. No one would do that.

Lara could have fought anyone he wanted. But he chose Wood who he thought was shot like he claimed before the first fight. The interview is on here.

AJ didn't cherry pick Ruiz. Miller failed a test so they needed an opponent for his debut in the US. Ortiz turned down a big money offer which left him needing an opponent quick. They got the American Ruiz who was in shape as he had just fought.

Hatton had wanted to fight Tszyu for years but only got the fight at that time. Tszyu was the best at the weight as he had just ripped apart Mitchell to solidify his position. Hatton was a big underdog with no one giving him a prayer. Tszyu wasn't looked at as shop-worn. That only became the story afterwards.

How do you cherry pick a Castillo when both are the best two at the weight with everyone calling for it? How was Castillo a corpse? I mean, if you're going to make it up as you go i'm sure you could say any old shlt like you're doing here. If i did that instead of giving straight examples, i could do it with every Mexican fighter in history and with every fight. Give me something genuine and not a bitter reaction to facts you clearly don't like.

Mayweather is a b1tch for bringing Marquez up two weights and draining Canelo. I'm not a hypocrite or contradicting myself. I don't give credit to anyone who does it. It's cowardly.

Khan didn't cherry pick Garcia. Khan had just been ripped off of his titles against a Peterson who got found out a week before the rematch so they they looked at another opponent. Garcia was the WBC champion. Khan was given his WBA title back because Peterson cheated. Why, who should Khan have faced otherwise? Man, this is getting worse by the second. It's ridiculous.

Fury fighting Whyte who had been out for over a year was in fact bullshlt. As was his cherry pick of a finished Chisora who he had beaten twice already. Wow, i actually agree with something you wrote as it makes perfect sense. The others are space man level though and beyond reaching.

The Inoue/ Donaire fight was part of a fight series if you remember. Inoue didn't orchestrate any of that. The rematch happened because the first fight was so good and fans wanted it. It was a unification.

None of the UK fighters were injured.

[Sid-Knee]

I usually agree with you sid, but I can't fathom the bolded how is Martin Murray elite or when has he ever displayed any elite traits? His most memorable moment is arguably winning a close decision against a shot knees version of sergio martinez.

Murray beat Martinez, Abraham and Sturm but just didn't get the decision in any of them. The best he got was the draw against Sturm. That was the closest fight, but he beat Martinez and Abraham clearly. They were horrible robberies. For that i recognise him as being elite. Basic, but he does the basics so well. I give him that.

[Century Tuna]

Taylor is going to put such a whipping on Teo. Kambosos beat Lopez's face to burger, and Josh is a much different animal.

nice prediction

[Quercusalba]

nice prediction

Hahaha...
You can't win 'em all. If it makes you feel any better, I lost money on Taylor tonight.
Great performance from Teo.

[shenmue]

Josh is a different animal, a shot animal.