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  • #61
    Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

    What elite fighter or hall of famer did GGG beat? None
    If you don't beat a HOF'er, you don't have any skill according to you? What? That's a fallacy. Chavez never beat one, but i bet you think he has skills?

    Golovkin beat Jacobs, Canelo x2, Murray and the likes. They're elite.

    But who did Canelo beat that was elite who didn't have circumstances attached to the fight where they were allowed to fight at their best and not be sabotaged by Canelo?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

      GGG has little boxing skills. He only rely on his power. I don't recall anyone saying GGG has skills. All he was a KO Bum Artist. Jacobs, Darychenko, Canelo shows once he steps on the elite level he struggled and to some got a gift vs Darychenko.

      Bivol has skills. Not GGG. By the way Canelo also depends on his power, not to much on skills. Once his power doesn't hurt his oppents, he get outboxed. Exampl BJS and Plant, who were outboxing him before the KO. Bivol put a boxing clinic on him because his power couldn't hurt Bivol.
      You said Golovkin didn't KO Canelo which showed he had no skill. How does that make any sense? That's why i asked if Canelo had a shaky chin. Is Canelo supposed to be taken out easily or something?

      Golovkin has good footwork, a good jab, good distance control. You clearly don't know what you're watching or talking about. He out-boxed Canelo but was ripped off by his usual corruption.

      Canelo is the one who loses and struggles when he steps up. That's why he has his judges and needs to make sure his opponents are at their weakest before he'll take them on. That's how pathetic Canelo is. Him being a great fighter is nothing but a delusional myth. He's good and nothing more.

      Bivol is more fluid than Golovkin is. But just because Bivol has more skill, it doesn't mean Golovkin doesn't have any.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        You said Golovkin didn't KO Canelo which showed he had no skill. How does that make any sense? That's why i asked if Canelo had a shaky chin. Is Canelo supposed to be taken out easily or something?

        Golovkin has good footwork, a good jab, good distance control. You clearly don't know what you're watching or talking about. He out-boxed Canelo but was ripped off by his usual corruption.

        Canelo is the one who loses and struggles when he steps up. That's why he has his judges and needs to make sure his opponents are at their weakest before he'll take them on. That's how pathetic Canelo is. Him being a great fighter is nothing but a delusional myth. He's good and nothing more.

        Bivol is more fluid than Golovkin is. But just because Bivol has more skill, it doesn't mean Golovkin doesn't have any.
        They were really close fights and your believe your favorite fighter won.

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        • #64
          teo better be careful with that body on a record stuff, look what happened to wilder, he thought he might have a body on his record, but the body got up and smacked him around the place

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          • #65
            Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

            They were really close fights and your believe your favorite fighter won.
            Do you never answer straight questions? How is Golovkin lacking in skill based on not knocking Canelo out? Does Canelo have a shaky chin where he should be knocked out by these guys?

            I don't believe Golovkin won. I know he did. I know how to score a fight by the criteria. Canelo got the usual decision by his corrupt judges. He lost as most people in boxing will tell you. Canelo lost the Lara fight too. Canelo landed a few body shots throughout the 12 rounds and nothing more. He didn't land any head shots. Lara was the one doing that.

            Did Chavez have any skill as he didn't beat any legit HOF'er?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              Do you never answer straight questions? How is Golovkin lacking in skill based on not knocking Canelo out? Does Canelo have a shaky chin where he should be knocked out by these guys?

              I don't believe Golovkin won. I know he did. I know how to score a fight by the criteria. Canelo got the usual decision by his corrupt judges. He lost as most people in boxing will tell you. Canelo lost the Lara fight too. Canelo landed a few body shots throughout the 12 rounds and nothing more. He didn't land any head shots. Lara was the one doing that.

              Did Chavez have any skill as he didn't beat any legit HOF'er?
              He couldn't outbox flat footed Canelo either. Look Canelo and Golovkin lack skills, they both rely on their power to get the Victory. They struggle with pure Boxers, example Lara .

              Chavez has a better Resume than GGG and Canelo put together.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

                He couldn't outbox flat footed Canelo either. Look Canelo and Golovkin lack skills, they both rely on their power to get the Victory. They struggle with pure Boxers, example Lara .

                Chavez has a better Resume than GGG and Canelo put together.
                Golovkin out-boxed Canelo in fight's 1 and 2. Golovkin didn't load up. Your power isn't connected to your boxing ability. They're separate area's of a fighter. You can be powerful but have no skill at all. You could be very skilful but have no power what-so-ever.

                Golovkin didn't fight Lara so that makes no sense.

                You're using a fallacy again. We're not talking about resume here. You said a fighter lacks skill if they didn't beat a legit HOF'er. Well, Chavez didn't. Therefore, going by your "Logic" Chavez lacked skill.

                Do you never answer straight questions? How is Golovkin lacking in skill based on not knocking Canelo out? Does Canelo have a shaky chin where he should be knocked out by these guys?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                  Golovkin out-boxed Canelo in fight's 1 and 2. Golovkin didn't load up. Your power isn't connected to your boxing ability. They're separate area's of a fighter. You can be powerful but have no skill at all. You could be very skilful but have no power what-so-ever.

                  Golovkin didn't fight Lara so that makes no sense.

                  You're using a fallacy again. We're not talking about resume here. You said a fighter lacks skill if they didn't beat a legit HOF'er. Well, Chavez didn't. Therefore, going by your "Logic" Chavez lacked skill.

                  Do you never answer straight questions? How is Golovkin lacking in skill based on not knocking Canelo out? Does Canelo have a shaky chin where he should be knocked out by these guys?
                  He couldn't outbox Canelo clearly. They were really close fights. He struggle with Jacobs and to some he lost to Derevechenko. That shows his boxing abilty. When his power wasn't there to hurt his opponents he struggle, instead of decisively outboxing them.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    At it again as in acknowledging facts and logic? Yeah, you're right.

                    Who are those the Mexicans beat? Those who have been out for far too long? Without that advantage, you know what happens. It's why every Mexican out there is doing it because they can't win otherwise. They recognise they're not good enough to fight at world level. They need to cheat and go with the perception as the truth is too much for them to handle. They're a weak cowardly people.
                    Give some examples of this you post about. I’m curious

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by El-Malo- View Post

                      Give some examples of this you post about. I’m curious
                      You want some examples of Mexicans fighting fighters that have been out for too long or have another disadvantage against them to have a Mexican want the fight? Sure.

                      Canelo's whole career. Draining Fielding. Draining Kovalev and having him fight so soon after a war. Then add the fact he was a shot fighter too. Drained Jacobs with a secret contract which he was forced to sign and not be allowed to talk about it. Waited for Golovkin to age then ripped him off twice after losing to him. Gave Callum Smith only 4 weeks to prepare. Yildrim out for 2 years. Chavez shot and drained from LH to 164 lbs. Kirkland shot and out for 17 months etc etc

                      Lara against Warrington where he was out for 17 months. Lara against Wood where he was out for a year. Weight cheating Wood in rematch.

                      Munguia who is now fighting a shot Chenko after being out for a year. Draining Rosado from SM to Middle. Johnson who had been out for 15 months etc etc

                      Martinez went after Gonzales only due to being out for a year and not because he wanted a test. Cherry picked a fighter with 8 fights but still clearly lost to him 8-4 but got the robbery. Picked an even lower ranked fighter but was still losing the fight so had a corrupt ref stop the fight to protect him. etc etc

                      Cruz fought a Featherweight even though he was offered fights at LW but turned all of them down. Fought a shot to pieces Gamboa. Is fighting another bum etc etc

                      Zurdo fought a shot Barrera who was coming from a loss and had been out for 2 years and 1 month. Fought a shot Gonzales. Fought a shot Abraham etc etc

                      Resendiz fighting Hurd coming from a loss and being out for 21 months.

                      Estrada being prime and the bigger fighter losing clearly to Gonzales but getting robberies in both fights.

                      Valenzuela fighting Robbie Davies after being out for a year.

                      Jose Felix fighting McKenna coming from a loss and being out for almost a year.

                      Zepeda fighting Diaz coming from a loss and being out for 11 months. Fighting Alvarado coming from 3 straight losses and moving up in weight.

                      Navarrete fighting Joet Gonzales after being out for 13 months. On the verge of being stopped by Wilson but saved by the ref.

                      Nery fighting Hovhannisyan being out for nearly a year. Weight/drug cheating.

                      Elwin Soto going after Budler after being out for 13 months.

                      Are these examples enough? There's many more, but you get the idea. This doesn't go into all the robberies or juicing either.

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