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  • #61
    Originally posted by thack View Post
    Wilder should KO Joshua and end that dribble but does he really have to wait right until the end of the year for Joshua to (hopefully) improve. But then again it looks like easy money so I suppose there's a temptation.
    and when joshua knocks out wilder what will your excuse be.....wait a minute it’s fury took his soul ? wilders lump on the side of his head impaired his vision ? Spence and Crawford took away his shine on there fight ?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
      and when joshua knocks out wilder what will your excuse be.....wait a minute it’s fury took his soul ? wilders lump on the side of his head impaired his vision ? Spence and Crawford took away his shine on there fight ?
      If Ruiz can KO Joshua, Wilder certainly can. And Joshua couldn't even KO Franklin. Why are you talking about souls being taken when AJ's is long gone? Ruiz took his aura of invincibility, and Usyk proved he can't even win at the highest level by boxing. I'm honestly surprised that he's still boxing at all after those types of losses. Wilder lands on everyone, and keeps his power through 12. Joshua will need to be able to stop Wilder as early as possible without getting hit himself. Someone's going to sleep, that's for sure. Based on AJ's timidity lately, I'm not so confident he can survive Wilder.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

        If Ruiz can KO Joshua, Wilder certainly can. And Joshua couldn't even KO Franklin. Why are you talking about souls being taken when AJ's is long gone? Ruiz took his aura of invincibility, and Usyk proved he can't even win at the highest level by boxing. I'm honestly surprised that he's still boxing at all after those types of losses. Wilder lands on everyone, and keeps his power through 12. Joshua will need to be able to stop Wilder as early as possible without getting hit himself. Someone's going to sleep, that's for sure. Based on AJ's timidity lately, I'm not so confident he can survive Wilder.
        well as far as I know newbie boxing is not judged on who knocks opponents out it’s judged on skill and technique which is the reason why Earnie shavers , John mugabi lost to better more skilled fighters .......wilder will not keep his power against joshua because will hurt early and take him out......shows you what a clueless fool you are by bring up Franklin.....certain styles are not easy to knock out... and wilder has already been knocked out 2 times , dropped by other fighters and saved by the ref against Ortiz .......we can talk all we want about who wins .......if wilder does decide to take the joshua fight in December we will find out who is the winner........where is Washington ? spilka ? etc ohh I forgot Chisora koed spilka in 2 rounds ....lol
        Last edited by The plunger man; 06-15-2023, 11:47 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

          If Ruiz can KO Joshua, Wilder certainly can. And Joshua couldn't even KO Franklin. Why are you talking about souls being taken when AJ's is long gone? Ruiz took his aura of invincibility, and Usyk proved he can't even win at the highest level by boxing. I'm honestly surprised that he's still boxing at all after those types of losses. Wilder lands on everyone, and keeps his power through 12. Joshua will need to be able to stop Wilder as early as possible without getting hit himself. Someone's going to sleep, that's for sure. Based on AJ's timidity lately, I'm not so confident he can survive Wilder.
          Your talking foolishly now , Wilder hasn’t won a real fight in over 3 years unless you count Helenius ? Suffered two very bad knockout losses and has only fought 1 round in a year and a half . Ruiz isn’t part of that equation and Franklin has 100% better defense then Wilder does when shots are coming his way . Usyk boxing at highest level is right but Wilder cannot box at high level that’s a fact so there’s another point that has zero to do with a Wilder fight .

          Wilder lands on everyone ,who’s landing on Wilder and what happens ? He’s been saved by the bell more then once ,rocked by jabs , left hooks and outright has shown no abilities to cope with countering punches , how he going to defeat Joshua with no counter punching ? He’s not .
          Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-15-2023, 11:58 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
            well as far as I know newbie boxing is not judged on who knocks opponents out it’s judged on skill and technique which is the reason why Earnie shavers , John mugabi lost to better more skilled fighters .......wilder will not keep his power against joshua because will hurt early and take him out......shows you what a clueless fool you are by bring up Franklin.....certain styles are not easy to knock out... and wilder has already been knocked out 2 times , dropped by other fighters and saved by the ref against Ortiz .......we can talk all we want about who wins .......if wilder does decide to take the joshua fight in December we will find out who is the winner........where is Washington ? spilka ? etc ohh I forgot Chisora koed spilka in 2 rounds ....lol
            Well, I'm certainly not going to argue that Wilder is skillful... He's clearly not. And I'll certainly agree that if they fight in December, we'll see what happens. That's the real truth right there: who's the best on the night.

            But the facts are that he has yet to face an opponent who he didn't put on the canvas, and that includes the top guy in the division, who he dropped 4 times.

            You going to try to argue that AJ is better than Fury? Or that AJ's chin is as good as Fury's? Wilder is the literal definition of "puncher's chance." AJ of old would be a heavy favorite. This AJ? I'm not so sure.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

              I didn’t say there was a rematch if a draw occurred I said the draw terminated the rematch agreement and they had to renegotiate terms because both wanted the rematch.

              https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/wilder-vs-fury
              So to be clear: After getting a gift draw and retaining his titles against Fury, Wilder was NOT obligated to rematch him, but decided to anyway.

              Sounds a lot like my ORIGINAL POST. Moron.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by JLC View Post

                So to be clear: After getting a gift draw and retaining his titles against Fury, Wilder was NOT obligated to rematch him, but decided to anyway.

                Sounds a lot like my ORIGINAL POST. Moron.
                No to be clear you were wrong there was a rematch clause for the first and second fight , you said ..YOU said no rematch clause was in a contract…it was . The draw nullified it you idiot ,they then went back to renegotiate because of the draw , had Fury won Wilder would get a rematch not bc he’s brave or anything your agenda trying to push here but bc it’s in the contract and Fury would have to take it you simpleton .

                Here’s more articles that states that . Thats 3 now if ..IF you can count that high ?

                https://www.sbnation.com/2018/12/2/1...joshua-callout

                https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/25429168/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-fight-draw-heavyweight-title-bout


                “please find me any article that says there was a CONTRACTUALLY MANDATED rematch after Wilder Fury 1. I’ll wait.”




                Take the L and move on like I said I can do this all day to you . Lol
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-15-2023, 04:46 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

                  No to be clear you were wrong there was a rematch clause for the first and second fight , you said ..YOU said no rematch clause was in a contract…it was . The draw nullified it you idiot ,they then went back to renegotiate because of the draw , had Fury won Wilder would get a rematch not bc he’s brave or anything your agenda trying to push here but bc it’s in the contract and Fury would have to take it you simpleton .

                  Here’s more articles that states that . Thats 3 now if ..IF you can count that high ?

                  https://www.sbnation.com/2018/12/2/1...joshua-callout

                  https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/25429168/deontay-wilder-tyson-fury-fight-draw-heavyweight-title-bout


                  “please find me any article that says there was a CONTRACTUALLY MANDATED rematch after Wilder Fury 1. I’ll wait.”




                  Take the L and move on like I said I can do this all day to you . Lol

                  THE FIRST WORDS FROM YOUR ARTICLE:

                  Many thought that the story after Saturday’s bout between Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury would be a unification bout with Anthony Joshua, but instead all the talk is about a rematch. Wilder and Fury went a full 12 rounds for the lineal and WBC heavyweight titles, and the fight ended in a split draw.

                  One judge had it 115-111 Wilder, which is an obscene card given that, if anything, Fury definitely won the most rounds. Wilder, though, put together a pair of knockdowns, including a huge one in the final round, and may have closed the gap enough by the end of it to make a draw or even a close Wilder win seem reasonable.



                  this is from the article that YOU sent. Where does it say there’s a mandated rematch ? It was a draw. There was no obligation for a rematch. Wilder retained his titles. Contractually he was FREE to move on and never fight fury again. But he decided to fight him a second time to set the record straight.

                  as much as you want to be correct, you’re wrong. Wilder was NOT obligated to fight Fury OR Ortiz a second time and chose to do so. It’s really that simple. All this mental gymnastics you’re doing trying to say that he was contractually obligated is fake. I don’t see anything saying there was a rematch clause at all in any article. Let alone it being a rematch clause for a DRAW. Generally in these situations the A side would have a rematch clause in case he loses. The B side would not. Just like Tank / Ryan.

                  In this case it was a draw so for DAMN SURE as the article YOU sent reads, there was no CONTRACTUALLY obligated rematch, but both fighters said they would be down to fight again. DUMB ****. Lmao

                  https://********/wpBvx4uxd8k

                  no rematch clause.
                  Last edited by JLC; 06-16-2023, 07:18 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                    Well, I'm certainly not going to argue that Wilder is skillful... He's clearly not. And I'll certainly agree that if they fight in December, we'll see what happens. That's the real truth right there: who's the best on the night.

                    But the facts are that he has yet to face an opponent who he didn't put on the canvas, and that includes the top guy in the division, who he dropped 4 times.

                    You going to try to argue that AJ is better than Fury? Or that AJ's chin is as good as Fury's? Wilder is the literal definition of "puncher's chance." AJ of old would be a heavy favorite. This AJ? I'm not so sure.
                    he didn’t drop johann duhaupas .....watch the fight and duhaupas never tasted the canvas one time lol......we can go back and forth all night but the facts are that wilder will be facing the hardest puncher he has faced in career and if joshua lands clean he also knocks wilder out cold.....let them fight and see who wins.

                    as for fury he has just run away from usyk and if joshua puts away wilder with ease that argument that fury is better will then be up for debate because once again if you don’t fight the best and beat the best then you cannot call yourself the best.....that’s the bottom line

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by JLC View Post


                      THE FIRST WORDS FROM YOUR ARTICLE:

                      Many thought that the story after Saturday’s bout between Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury would be a unification bout with Anthony Joshua, but instead all the talk is about a rematch. Wilder and Fury went a full 12 rounds for the lineal and WBC heavyweight titles, and the fight ended in a split draw.

                      One judge had it 115-111 Wilder, which is an obscene card given that, if anything, Fury definitely won the most rounds. Wilder, though, put together a pair of knockdowns, including a huge one in the final round, and may have closed the gap enough by the end of it to make a draw or even a close Wilder win seem reasonable.



                      this is from the article that YOU sent. Where does it say there’s a mandated rematch ? It was a draw. There was no obligation for a rematch. Wilder retained his titles. Contractually he was FREE to move on and never fight fury again. But he decided to fight him a second time to set the record straight.

                      as much as you want to be correct, you’re wrong. Wilder was NOT obligated to fight Fury OR Ortiz a second time and chose to do so. It’s really that simple. All this mental gymnastics you’re doing trying to say that he was contractually obligated is fake. I don’t see anything saying there was a rematch clause at all in any article. Let alone it being a rematch clause for a DRAW. Generally in these situations the A side would have a rematch clause in case he loses. The B side would not. Just like Tank / Ryan.

                      In this case it was a draw so for DAMN SURE as the article YOU sent reads, there was no CONTRACTUALLY obligated rematch, but both fighters said they would be down to fight again. DUMB ****. Lmao

                      https://********/wpBvx4uxd8k

                      no rematch clause.
                      Every article I posted said there was a rematch after the first fight , didn’t bother reading anything else because I didn’t discuss anything else other then the rematch and why Wilder took certain fights you even posted random links hoping there’s no rematch suggested but you couldn’t even do that you clown all you doing know is circle jerking yourself on about a draw which was explained to you how it effected events , I’m the one that told you about the draw now your running with it as if that means a rematch wasn’t in place before it .

                      Looks like another day to torture you ?

                      And I never said he was obligated to take a rematch after the draw that’s something your arguing with yourself you brought up contract obligations so think about that you idiot I even have Wilder confirming a rematch was already agreed to after the fight and deciding where to have it and you still looking like a re.tard on here arguing about it I swear I’d love to see what guys like you look like in real life .
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-17-2023, 10:26 AM.

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