Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Haney-Loma Debate, Stevenson, Ryan Garcia, More

[Zaroku]

"Privilege is getting to duck Gary Russell, Devin Haney, Teofimo Lopez and Nicholas Walters. Privilege is getting Salido DQd for the dirty fighting. Privilege is getting the decision vs Haney and Salido and a draw vs Lopez. Again, Loma has lost all of his close fights."


Damn! PERFECT and can't add to that.

Eventually that Yllanta will be piped popped by a Mexican boxer

Haney easy money

nonito prime stops him fast

then Mexican marines in Manila drink tequila and don’t get ****ed with

[Monty Fisto]

Good bag as always. Not to keep beating a dead horse, but the narrative that only fans and the media had Lomachenko winning, as if that's a nice way of saying that they don't know what they're talking about. But, The Ring Magazine has an article from a few days ago where boxing writers, current trainers, former fighters, etc., all of whom have forgotten more about the sport than most people, and the vast majority of them thought that Loma did enough to win. Obviously, the point is moot, and Haney did indeed win, but the idea that only casual fans that don't know the nuances of the sport could possibly think Loma won, or his fans being biased in their opinion is ignorant.

And Bread stresses it was a razor close fight, but it was a razor close fight in general with Loma winning the two clearest rounds. There were no such obvious rounds in favour of Haney. Nor was Loma hurt or rocked at any point. Haney's head was snapped back cleanly several times; I don't recall Haney landing clean head shots against Loma like that. Haney had to give up his early strategy and get on the back foot after a few rounds. Haney was befuddled in the 10th. Loma was nearly always in control. Loma got better as the fight progressed. Haney got worse.

[Chavmex40]

Look if the fight would have ended in a draw, there wouldn’t be this trend of controversy! There is no crying in boxing, Haney should be forced to a rematch for his own honor! Just like Floyd do vs Castillo and Maidana one. Stop bitching and run it again….

[Shadoww702]

Eventually that Yllanta will be piped popped by a Mexican boxer

Haney easy money

nonito prime stops him fast

then Mexican marines in Manila drink tequila and don’t get ****ed with

Yeah he chinny and can see someone with Maidana or Margarito type style laying him out. Think Tank clips him also.

[alexjust]

Loma not privileged? Then what do you call him leapfrogging Shakur Stevenson and every other deserving contender to become the mandatory challenger in multiple sanctioning bodies After LOSING a fight and just ONE DAY after his manager penned a sob story to those same Bodies. What do you call him getting an unheard of 400k payout for getting pushed at the weigh in. What do you call him getting 117-111 and 116-112 scorecards in a razor close fight against Ortiz (breadman, he DEFINITELY got the benefit of the judges in that fight). ..receiving A title shot against salido without earning one, and then an immediate title shot after getting plastered by Salido( a fight in which Kellerman and Lampley blew the "low blows" vastly out of proportion as damage control from Lomachenko being soundly beaten). Every loss he's taken he's been excused by his own fans "shoulder injury", " crooked judges"" low blows". Meanwhile he can Headbutt Teofimo Lopez like victor Ortiz in the 11th and 12th of their fight and nobody bats an eye. He was gifted the Olympic match against the Cuban Yasnier toledo, and his WSB fight against Selimov. he's definitely been privileged.

Wow. Spit out all the poison or it will kill you. Btw, $400k, to my knowledge, was a fine imposed by commission. Meaning that they took the money and did not give it to Loma. Correct me, if I'm wrong, with a legitimate source.

[BillyBoxing]

Loma not privileged? Then what do you call him leapfrogging Shakur Stevenson and every other deserving contender to become the mandatory challenger in multiple sanctioning bodies After LOSING a fight and just ONE DAY after his manager penned a sob story to those same Bodies. What do you call him getting an unheard of 400k payout for getting pushed at the weigh in. What do you call him getting 117-111 and 116-112 scorecards in a razor close fight against Ortiz (breadman, he DEFINITELY got the benefit of the judges in that fight). ..receiving A title shot against salido without earning one, and then an immediate title shot after getting plastered by Salido( a fight in which Kellerman and Lampley blew the "low blows" vastly out of proportion as damage control from Lomachenko being soundly beaten). Every loss he's taken he's been excused by his own fans "shoulder injury", " crooked judges"" low blows". Meanwhile he can Headbutt Teofimo Lopez like victor Ortiz in the 11th and 12th of their fight and nobody bats an eye. He was gifted the Olympic match against the Cuban Yasnier toledo, and his WSB fight against Selimov. he's definitely been privileged.

Bread never said that Loma has never been privileged he said that he's not overall a privileged fighter. Yes he forgot the Ortiz fight.

Privileged fighters are Tank and Nelo.
With Nelo treatment Loma would be one loss.
And Tank IS fine getting Big money fighting average fighters for interim belts and putting them rehydration clause when they are bigger.
I didn't see Loma putting a privilege such as a rehydration clause for Haney.

Whatever you are an irrationnal hater it's pointless to deal with you.

If you were a true boxing fan u would appreciate Loma for fighting Lopez, Ortiz and Haney in his last 5 fights.
Bread talked about morons hating on Loma and u fit the agenda.

[BillyBoxing]

there seems to be almost nobody out there who thinks anyone can beat shakur lol

maybe this could be used as motivation by loma for a fight with him if the cash was good if no other big fight can be organised

Loma and Kur will fight for the belts down the road if Haney moves up.

Shakur impressed everybody by beating down Valdez, but I think Loma would beat down Valdez too.

I see Kur vs Loma as a 8-4 win for Kur.
Competitive but clear win.

But Loma won't look like sht, his défense IS that good, he's not a sitting duck, Loma ain't a basic fighter like that japanese Dude.

[Atletisock]

Arsehole-o from South Africa back once again. Of course he had Haney winning against the white dude. Not biased at all.

[Zaroku]

Yeah he chinny and can see someone with Maidana or Margarito type style laying him out. Think Tank clips him also.

He’s one cabonaso away from a Mexican stopping his soft azz

[Zaroku]

Arsehole-o from South Africa back once again. Of course he had Haney winning against the white dude. Not biased at all.

My old boss was was South African white and a slut

jenna and I busted nuts all over her.

I imagined I was a slave and master was outta the house

she prolly imagined I was Antonio Baderss or some hood looking Spaniard