Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Woke Up the Echoes, But Was it Really Enough?

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By Lyle Fitzsimmons - It was the signature mantra of Roy Jones Jr. "Y'all musta forgot." And there it was again on Saturday night in Las Vegas, though this time being modeled by a fighter operating about 40 pounds lighter and wrapping a different flag around his shoulders. But make no mistake, Vasiliy Lomachenko was no less steely than Superman in his heyday.
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[tkoboxingscene]

They had to end the article with a crackpot conspiracy theory even tho they admit the hysteria and crying over the decision is ridiculous LOL... too many people that obsessed with influencers/youtubers are watching boxing now. People that don't know the difference between a split decision and unanimous decison got no business giving people the verdict on a boxing match.

[MMegatron]

He gave up early rounds again and didn’t put the pressure on as he could have in some middle rounds and in the 12th. He proved he is a better boxer than Haney, but with the size disadvantage he definitely had to put the pressure in 100% of the fight to win. It’s not like Haney is someone that can be coasted past - he is a good fighter and was effective in parts, especially early on. In retrospect I think it was a draw and there should be a rematch.

[Cypocryphy]

Lampley is saying it without actually saying it: Lomachenko was robbed blind. Everyone knows it. RJJ-94-02=GOAT had posted earlier (which was a great post), asking whether there is bias toward Eastern Europeans. Now Lampley is asking the same question. Because when it happens again and again and again, there is indeed something sinister at work.

[SteelFist01]

They had to end the article with a crackpot conspiracy theory even tho they admit the hysteria and crying over the decision is ridiculous LOL... too many people that obsessed with influencers/youtubers are watching boxing now. People that don't know the difference between a split decision and unanimous decison got no business giving people the verdict on a boxing match.

Cute story and all, but how come credible analysts that have surely forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know, like Max Kellerman and Doug Fischer, (amongst many others) saw a close win for Lomachenko? Obviously it's just their opinion, but they are 'educated' opinions, not opinions from casual youtubers like you're suggesting.

[Ropeydope]

I had Loma winning. That said, Fitsimmons makes a good point. Anytime a score is 115-113 in either direction it’s hard to cry robbery with how subjective the whole judging process is at the end of the day. Those early rounds were a small guy vs a pillow fisted big guy, in a very tactical, chess match. I lean towards the skilled small guy who in my opinion kept the fight at his range, IOW controlled the pace. It is completely conceivable that others might have preferred the body work from Haney as Loma close the gap……meh, boxing.

[tkoboxingscene]

Cute story and all, but how come credible analysts that have surely forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know, like Max Kellerman and Doug Fischer, (amongst many others) saw a close win for Lomachenko? Obviously it's just their opinion, but they are 'educated' opinions, not opinions from casual youtubers like you're suggesting.

Cute half story, but there are just as many credible analysts that just as much more than you'll ever know like Roy Jones and Tim Bradley who actually boxed before unlike the clowns you mentioned saw a close win for Haney. Tim Bradley was pro loma might i add, and also had to admit he was bias Whilst calling the fight and had to watch it the second time to score the bout correctly

[Monty Fisto]

Cute half story, but there are just as many credible analysts that just as much more than you'll ever know like Roy Jones and Tim Bradley who actually boxed before unlike the clowns you mentioned saw a close win for Haney. Tim Bradley was pro loma might i add, and also had to admit he was bias Whilst calling the fight and had to watch it the second time to score the bout correctly

Tim Bradley called it for Loma, then watching it a second time, said he thought it was a draw. This doesn't sound like the best evidence of a Haney win.

[SteelFist01]

Cute half story, but there are just as many credible analysts that just as much more than you'll ever know like Roy Jones and Tim Bradley who actually boxed before unlike the clowns you mentioned saw a close win for Haney. Tim Bradley was pro loma might i add, and also had to admit he was bias Whilst calling the fight and had to watch it the second time to score the bout correctly

Yeah it was close enough that it could have gone either way, so if someone like Bradley has his opinion, then cool. I haven't read what he said, but I usually agree with his logic, so even if he disagrees that Loma did enough to win, he probably has a fair assessment. But, that isn't what I had issue with your comment about. You made it sound like a bunch of casuals that don't know what they were talking about making a stink of the fight, when that's clearly not the case when a lot of unbiased people have a similar conclusion. But, the fact that Bradley boxed before and the other guys didn't doesn't mean much. For example, Bernard Hopkins who is much more accomplished as a boxer had Caleb Plant beating Benavidez even going as far as saying that he will make it look easy, yet that was obviously far from the case. And there are countless examples of current and ex fighters being wrong on multiple occasions all over YouTube. And, with Bradley, his judgment in this situation is questionable to me because he was saying after the fight that he was having bad memories of his own controversial win over Pacquiao. But, anyway all of this is irrelevant. Like I said before, it was a close fight that could have gone either way, and plenty of people that do know boxing, not just casuals, think that Lomachenko did enough to win. So, just because you are obviously satisfied with the results doesn't mean that everyone agrees with you and if they don't, that doesn't mean that they're dumb, or not know what they're talking about.

[Bronx2245]

They had to end the article with a crackpot conspiracy theory even tho they admit the hysteria and crying over the decision is ridiculous LOL... too many people that obsessed with influencers/youtubers are watching boxing now. People that don't know the difference between a split decision and unanimous decison got no business giving people the verdict on a boxing match.

There have been many disappointing decisions, some long ago like Whitkaer vs. Chavez Sr., some not that long ago like Williams vs. Lara, Pacquiao vs. Bradley, and Pacquiao vs. Horn. Then just the other day we had the bad stoppage in Romero vs. Barroso! I don't think there's a conspiracy to stop East Euros, it's just a system built on subjectivity, yet claiming to be objective!