Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Derevyanchenko Was Best Fight We Can Make For Munguia

[crimsonfalcon07]

When you repeatedly turn down your title shots that you get as a mandatory, OF COURSE you don't get better fights, nor will you get leeway from the sanctioning organizations. Munguía had multiple chances to fight the big guys and chose not to. He needs to just go away. He should have been dropped from the rankings for turning down those fights. More nonsense coming from De La Hoya.

Munguía already turned down ordered fights for the title against Andrade and Janibek twice. He's been offered the chance to fight for the WBO title at least 3 times and said no every time.

[Sid-Knee]

Munguia is fighting Chenko because he has the identity they're looking for. Inactive or finished. I wouldn't be surprised if Munguia wants even more advantages over him in some way to make even more sure of victory. Oscar singing a different tune is nothing but an insult to anyone with integrity.

[Josef Devu]

Mongol Munguia is a joke of a fighter and everybody knows even his promoters that’s why they can’t match him with a real opponent, the last 10 fights or last 2-3 years he only fought left overs or unknown boxers, Dennis Hogan exposed the fraud he is and got robbed and Munguia run as far away he could to avoid a rematch, Yeap he lost against Hogan, and he was a number contender for Andrade for well over a year too

[Boricua181]

And you wonder why GBP didn't make the fight?

No! I knew he was delaying the fight, because he wanted to fight a older, slower, and more of a worn out version of Golovkin.
I thought that Golovkin still did enough in both of the first two fight's to win by unanimous decision, but it didn't go the GBP's way with Ryan vs Tank.

[-Kev-]

Derevyanchenko is a very good fighter. In my scorecards in his last 5 fights, only Charlo has beaten him. I had him beating GGG and Adames, and Jacobs was a very close fight that could’ve gone either way.

He’s going to be a very stiff test for Munguia. He isn’t some walk in the park, easy KO victim. The man can fight. I’m surprised so many fans are talking sh/t about this fight. Munguia can lose this one.

[Bronx2245]

No! I knew he was delaying the fight, because he wanted to fight a older, slower, and more of a worn out version of Golovkin.
I thought that Golovkin still did enough in both of the first two fight's to win by unanimous decision, but it didn't go the GBP's way with Ryan vs Tank.

Honestly, Oscar didn't want to make that fight! Ryan applied the pressure! Then Oscar wanted Ryan to fight Gesta first. Again, Ryan knows best! So Ryan got what he deserved, because he doesn't listen to trainers, promoters, etc.!!! Let's see what Derrick James can do with him?

[Boricua181]

Honestly, Oscar didn't want to make that fight! Ryan applied the pressure! Then Oscar wanted Ryan to fight Gesta first. Again, Ryan knows best! So Ryan got what he deserved, because he doesn't listen to trainers, promoters, etc.!!! Let's see what Derrick James can do with him?

I hear you, but Ryan wasn't going to beat Tank, under any circumstance's. Ryan could, or can beat other fighter's in boxing, but he's just not beating Tank.
As far as Ryan changing his trainer, he's already done that around four time's already, it appear's that he has a fixed mind set, he's his own trainer that is.

[Bronx2245]

I hear you, but Ryan wasn't going to beat Tank, under any circumstance's. Ryan could, or can beat other fighter's in boxing, but he's just not beating Tank.
As far as Ryan changing his trainer, he's already done that around four time's already, it appear's that he has a fixed mind set, he's his own trainer that is.

Then that means Oscar needs to pull the reigns, and slow down that horse! I know Oscar is stressed because he doesn't want to lose Ryan, but you can't just let him ruin his career, and GBP business! Do you think Ryan can beat Rolly @ 140?

[Boricua181]

Then that means Oscar needs to pull the reigns, and slow down that horse! I know Oscar is stressed because he doesn't want to lose Ryan, but you can't just let him ruin his career, and GBP business! Do you think Ryan can beat Rolly @ 140?

Ryan should be able to beat Rolly, but Oscar can't reign in Ryan. Ryan has already had mental/emotional breakdown's already in the recent past.
Oscar isn't a psychiatrist, and he's had his own personal problem's himself, so how would he be able to control Ryan, when he hasn't been able to control himself?
The answer is he can't, it's beyond the area of his expertise. Oscar was a great fighter, and was involved in many exciting fight's, but just like many or everyone else, he has his own idiosyncracies. In other word's he can use some reigning in himself, because he says, and has done some crazy thing's as well!

[Bronx2245]

Ryan should be able to beat Rolly, but Oscar can't reign in Ryan. Ryan has already had mental/emotional breakdown's already in the recent past.
Oscar isn't a psychiatrist, and he's had his own personal problem's himself, so how would he be able to control Ryan, when he hasn't been able to control himself?
The answer is he can't, it's beyond the area of his expertise. Oscar was a great fighter, and was involved in many exciting fight's, but just like many or everyone else, he has his own idiosyncracies. In other word's he can use some reigning in himself, because he says, and has done some crazy thing's as well!

Yeah, like missing Mayweather vs. Canelo, and Ryan's post-fight press conference!