POLL: Who thinks Haney needs to give Loma a rematch asap?

[dan_cov]

I've seen the fight twice, my eyesight is fine.
I think I have been around the sport long enough now to score rounds and a fight.

I know what I seen and don't care how many try convince me otherwise.

Its not a difficult fight to score you only have to score the first 8 rounds as Haney clearly took the 9th & 12th, Loma 10th and 11th.
You can't find 5 rounds there to give Loma, there is no conceivable way to give him 5 rounds of the first 8.

[Stephankotyk]

As people already mentioned. If Haney want to get some respect going forward there should be rematch. Same as Pac Bradly, Canelo GGG, Ward Kovalev.
In this situation Loma can actually get better outcome, by taking tuneup fight and setup anything with other guys in division like Tank and Shakur. Haney has no future in 135 anymore without rematch, and he is losing first competitive fight at 140 where everyone same size or bigger.

[Hotsauce91]

Yes he should

[The Big Dunn]

Big Dung talking like the coward he is. Look at you talking scared!!! I love it

Ok have them rematch. Another loss for LLLoma wouldn’t upset me at all.

[PRINCEKOOL]

If Haney is a genuine competitor, then he will call for the rematch.

Haney historically to this point? Has proven that his motives in the professional ranks 'Are not just business, he has instrinsic motives to challenge himself'.

Haney's last three fights have been Kambosos Junior twice away from home, Lomachenko.

Note: I am trying to make out that fighting Kambosos Junior away from home is superior. As I have always stated that fighting at home, as the favorite against another elite level fighter is a more difficult challenge for a fighter 'I think all of this showed vs Lomachenko during the build up and fight'.

I have not voted on the pole etc.

[ColdBlooded]

Imagine if Bradley had never rematched Pacquiao or Mayweather never rematched Castillo after they both clearly lost to them.

[STREET CLEANER]

This fight has enough attention now with people calling it a robbery that it might be the most profitable fight outside of Tank.

[Vlad_]

I've seen the fight twice, my eyesight is fine.
I think I have been around the sport long enough now to score rounds and a fight.

I know what I seen and don't care how many try convince me otherwise.

Its not a difficult fight to score you only have to score the first 8 rounds as Haney clearly took the 9th & 12th, Loma 10th and 11th.
You can't find 5 rounds there to give Loma, there is no conceivable way to give him 5 rounds of the first 8.

What? You can give Loma 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 depending on how you see the close rounds. For me Loma took rounds 1 through 4 because I rank punches to the face higher than body punches, since they didn’t do much to slow Loma down. Round 5 was a Haney round. Rounds 6 through 8 were close, but again, it depends what type of activity you favor. Round 9 was a Haney round. 10-11 were clear Loma rounds. Haney did indeed step up in the 12th, but Loma was active as well. That round can go to either fighter.

Again, I favor headshot over body shots if they don’t slow the fighter down, as good abs are part of the defense imo and so those punches don’t necessarily need to be blocked, so I gave rounds to Loma that you might have given to Haney.

Anyways, in your own words you seem to agree that the fight might be seen as close, so why are you against a rematch?

[smith3536]

Big Dung talking like the coward he is. Look at you talking scared!!! I love it

[dan_cov]

What? You can give Loma 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 depending on how you see the close rounds. For me Loma took rounds 1 through 4 because I rank punches to the face higher than body punches, since they didn’t do much to slow Loma down. Round 5 was a Haney round. Rounds 6 through 8 were close, but again, it depends what type of activity you favor. Round 9 was a Haney round. 10-11 were clear Loma rounds. Haney did indeed step up in the 12th, but Loma was active as well. That round can go to either fighter.

Again, I favor headshot over body shots if they don’t slow the fighter down, as good abs are part of the defense imo and so those punches don’t necessarily need to be blocked, so I gave rounds to Loma that you might have given to Haney.

Anyways, in your own words you seem to agree that the fight might be seen as close, so why are you against a rematch?

I don't think so, they was competitive rounds but most of them was Haney rounds.

This is not how boxing is scored and we can not be scoring fights based on our own criteria of how much stock we put into certain types of shots.
Just because Loma rallied and had a great round 10 & 11 doesn't mean he wasn't feeling those bodyshots or they wasn't taking anything out of him.
He clearly wasn't enjoying them and they was making him reset and back up.

If it wasn't for those bodyshots there is every chance he could have started earlier and even carried the momentum he had in the 11th into the final round.

Those bodyshots hurt and take a toll.

I don't know what good abs being a part of defense means tbh
Taking clean punches repeatably is anything but good defence regardless how well you can take a shot.