Who is greater Mayweather or Roy Jones jr

[Jiddu Dali]

Before anything, B-Hop > RJJ.

In what? resume? accomplishments? Titles? skill? versatility? dominance? highlights? Ranking all time?


come on DS, Roy is much better in every category but B Hop is still great

[Jiddu Dali]

Roy Jones is easily the better boxer. People will forever argue about who had the better skills and fought the better opponents but I'll just stick to the facts.

More of Roy Jones opponents went on to win championships after he beat them (Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Clinton Woods, Julio Gonzalez, John Ruiz). Floyd's opponents were either way too green or were on the tail-end of their boxing careers

- Roy Jones has yet to show a single sign of ever getting hurt, or close to losing a fight until he was 35 when he barely beat Tarver and got knocked out in the rematch. Jones has a love and respect for the sport. Mayweather retired at 33 after massing up large amounts of cash. Mayweather has also came close to losing against a prime Castillo (a fight I think he clearly lost). Mayweather has also been stunned on several occasions

Roy won in a much more impressive and devastating fashion than Floyd and he did it against better opponents. Remember when he mimicked a chicken and knocked James Toney into the ropes? I'd love to see Floyd open up his guard for once and try that on another hall-of-famer. Roy left no doubt who won the fight. Floyd loves to bend the rules by using his forearms, turning away from his opponent, and dipping so low that his opponents accidentally hit him low or in the back of the head

Roy fought the better ranked opponents. Go to boxrec.com and that Mayweather didn't face the best of the welterweights. Zab Judah was a has-been who lost his title to Baldimir. He beat the best Junior Welterweight(Ricky Hatton) at Welterweight.

Roy was also the first fighter and perhaps only fighter to go through an entire round without getting hit by a punch. So who's defense is better now

- Roy never got hurt or close to losing a fight during his prime. So who's got the better boxing style after all or was Roy that much more athletic?

- Many observers have also considered Roy Jones to still have faster handspeed than mayweather. Mayweather's speed is mostly in his body.

In the end, Floyd won boring unimpressive fights against lackluster competition. Even against inferior fighters, he showed numerous flaws and got hit with big clean shots. Floyd may have won many fights but he did lose numerous rounds against Castillo, Judah, and De La Hoya where Roy hardly ever loses a clear round (in his prime).[/QUOTE]

WOW....just wow

[Chase8400]

Floyd and Roy are both in my top 5 favorite fighters of all-time, so I'm not biased. I don't wanna say much, because to me it's obvious Floyd is the much more skilled boxer.

That being said, has Floyd ever gotten KTFO? How about twice? Didn't think so.

Yea, well Floyd hasn't made it to his 50th pro fight having fought guys his size or bigger, has he? Didn't think so.

See the poll results.

[Chase8400]

TRADITIONAL BOXING skills - mayweather

accomplishments - RJJ

talent -RJJ

overall - RJJ

I fixed that for you. Jones was so much more skilled than Mayweather in his prime, it's not even funny. Fundamentals have nothing to do with it. Try as good of a defense as Floyd with a ridiculous offensive arsenal. That was prime Rjj.

[Chase8400]

Fact is, Floyd has the kind of well laid out skill base which means he could fight into his 40's and still compete long after his reflexes and speed has dulled.

As soon as Roy's natural abilities faded, he got knocked the **** out

Whos the better fighter again?

See the poll for a reference. ^^

Lol @ you sounding just like lil' Floyd. What a joke.

[tito yuca]

Yea, well Floyd hasn't made it to his 50th pro fight having fought guys his size or bigger, has he? Didn't think so.

See the poll results.

He's made it to his 40th, let's give him time. And yes, everyone he's fought with the exception of Marquez has been his size or bigger. He's won belts in 5 different weight classes.

Roy is great, but since Ruiz he has shown a lot of flaws in the ring. Prime Roy looks better than probably any fighter in history, but to be fair, if Floyd gets **** for not taking on the toughest challenges, so should Roy.

Everyone in this topic has said that during his PRIME Roy was better, but that's not the topic. It's comparing their entire careers. Roy's losses hurt him a lot, that's why you hear everyone say that if he had retired after Ruiz he might have been considered the best ever p4p, or no lower than top 10. Right now, a lot of people don't even have him in their top 25.

[King Jaffe Joffer]

Roy has 5 losses..
Floyd has 0 losses..

Roy was extremely EMBARRASSED in 4 of those losses..
Floyd has never been embarrassed..


You have to compare their ENTIRE careers.. Not just stop all the sudden when Roy started to look mortal..

[Chase8400]

He's made it to his 40th, let's give him time. And yes, everyone he's fought with the exception of Marquez has been his size or bigger. He's won belts in 5 different weight classes.

Roy is great, but since Ruiz he has shown a lot of flaws in the ring. Prime Roy looks better than probably any fighter in history, but to be fair, if Floyd gets **** for not taking on the toughest challenges, so should Roy.

Everyone in this topic has said that during his PRIME Roy was better, but that's not the topic. It's comparing their entire careers. Roy's losses hurt him a lot, that's why you hear everyone say that if he had retired after Ruiz he might have been considered the best ever p4p, or no lower than top 10. Right now, a lot of people don't even have him in their top 25.

To be fair about the thread, the author doesn't specify exactly what criteria the poll is based on. It seems to me the result have made it clear that Jones dominates any percievable criterial the author could have intended. In my opinion and the majority of the other posters Jones has both a better resume' and overall was a greater fighter.

That being said, I gaurantee Floyd doesn't retire undefeated if he stays around long enough to have 50 fights with the rest being against actual welterweights.

I respect Floyd as a fighter but I am calling it as I see it. Roy Jones is the greatest fighter since SRL and belongs in the top 5 all time in my book.

[Chase8400]

Roy has 5 losses..
Floyd has 0 losses..

Roy was extremely EMBARRASSED in 4 of those losses..
Floyd has never been embarrassed..


You have to compare their ENTIRE careers.. Not just stop all the sudden when Roy started to look mortal..

Roy also has 59 fights under his belt and is 40.

Floyd is still young and has only fought 40 pro fights.

Do you honestly think Floyd could beat 19 more guys at or above his current weight class?

The only time anyone even dared bring up a subject like this is after Roy lost to Tarver in 2004 @ 35 years of age. Before that, Floyd didn't even register as a blip on Jones' radar.

Peace.

[DiLLiNGER]

Roy has 5 losses..
Floyd has 0 losses..

Roy was extremely EMBARRASSED in 4 of those losses..
Floyd has never been embarrassed..


You have to compare their ENTIRE careers.. Not just stop all the sudden when Roy started to look mortal..

At least roy had the balls to face the best,he went on to fight the HW's.No joke when i watched floyds fight against jmm i fall asleep i mean common no action at all,it was just the jab and the defense and how big did he look compared to lil juan.

The **** rjj was doing esspecialy when he was in his prime no other boxer could do it thats what makes him special i mean the fantastic footwork and the triple left hooks,and roy jones jr still impresses me with his boxing abilities even at his age.

Roy is the better boxer in every aspect he had the balls to step up against the big boys too,i pay any day to watch roy fight even if he loses you still know hes gonna come out and do his magic.

And sometimes a loss can say more about a fighter than a win,i mean im a floyd fan no doubt but at least im realistic because i know he handpicks his opponents,his motto is the smaller they are the easier the fight is and of course easier pay day.