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  • unknowledgeablepugilist
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    #51
    Originally posted by bullydean

    How is Usyk past his prime?

    Povetkin, Pulev, and Ortiz don't compete at a high level. They literally fight bums and the few times they decent contenders they get blasted out.

    Pulev struggled with gatekeepers.
    Povetkin was getting tossed around by contenders.
    Ortiz gets battered by contenders.
    All got demolished by the top fighters because they don't have it in them to compete at a high level anymore. That's why they aren't credible.

    Now you're pulling out random bs percentages lol.
    How is Usyk past his prime? I dunno due to his age. The physical and cognitive decline of professional athletes begins to speed up after thirty. A professional boxers physical prime usually occurs between 20 to 30. Is it a random percentage? Not it's an estimation because a fighters prime is about a quarter of there career.

    Ortiz has never actually been battered though, he was winning against Wilder on the card's before the stoppage and the Ruiz fight was razor thin even with the knock-downs.
    Pulev easily beat Jerry Forrest a gate-keeper while Zhang and Hunter were lucky to get draws with him.
    Furthermore, Povetkin got a draw with Hunter and knocked out Whyte after losing to Anthony Joshua; that's not been passed around.
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    ​​​​​​Your opinions are baseless and uneducated

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    • bullydean
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      #52
      Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist

      How is Usyk past his prime? I dunno due to his age. The physical and cognitive decline of professional athletes begins to speed up after thirty. A professional boxers physical prime usually occurs between 20 to 30. Is it a random percentage? Not it's an estimation because a fighters prime is about a quarter of there career.

      Ortiz has never actually been battered though, he was winning against Wilder on the card's before the stoppage and the Ruiz fight was razor thin even with the knock-downs.
      Pulev easily beat Jerry Forrest a gate-keeper while Zhang and Hunter were lucky to get draws with him.
      Furthermore, Povetkin got a draw with Hunter and knocked out Whyte after losing to Anthony Joshua; that's not been passed around.
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      ​​​​​​Your opinions are baseless and uneducated
      So you're assuming Usyk is out of prime but you have no evidence that he is?
      Your estimation is based on what?

      Povetkin landed a hail Mary on Whyte which saved him but he was getting battered.
      Hunter is also a nobody who hasn't proven anything yet.
      Zhang is literally 39 and had multiple health problems for most of his recent career.
      Wow Pulev barely beats gatekeepers but gets battered by top fighters.

      You don't look at the W or L you look at the performance and all of them have failed dramatically.

      You're full of crap and it's hilarious to see you spit out so much bs lol
      Get off of AJ's lap buddy.

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      • unknowledgeablepugilist
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        #53
        Originally posted by bullydean

        So you're assuming Usyk is out of prime but you have no evidence that he is?
        Your estimation is based on what?

        Povetkin landed a hail Mary on Whyte which saved him but he was getting battered.
        Hunter is also a nobody who hasn't proven anything yet.
        Zhang is literally 39 and had multiple health problems for most of his recent career.
        Wow Pulev barely beats gatekeepers but gets battered by top fighters.

        You don't look at the W or L you look at the performance and all of them have failed dramatically.

        You're full of crap and it's hilarious to see you spit out so much bs lol
        Get off of AJ's lap buddy.
        Evidence? Assuming? No it's literally science. Lung capacity, bone density, muscle mass, and the hearts ability to transport oxygen all begin to steadily decline after thirty; these declines are coupled with physical injuries a fighter would have occurred over there career. Furthermore, boxer's get punched in the head; this accumulation of damage lead's to a cognitive decline, which becomes more prevalent as fighters age. Finally, reaction speed begins to slow down.

        A prime in boxing is a boxers physical peak, and you don't need to be a sport's scientist to know Usyk at 36 is far removed from his physical peak.
        You talk about age yet you don't understand the fundamentals of it because you're uneducated and ignorant.

        Zhang's health issues didn't stop him from dominating Joyce. Povetkin's knockout was carefully constructed not a lucky punch evident by the previous offensive sequences in the match up. The performances are fine it's you pulling at straws. I'm wondering who do you think is a good heavyweight?

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        • bullydean
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          #54
          Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist

          Evidence? Assuming? No it's literally science. Lung capacity, bone density, muscle mass, and the hearts ability to transport oxygen all begin to steadily decline after thirty; these declines are coupled with physical injuries a fighter would have occurred over there career. Furthermore, boxer's get punched in the head; this accumulation of damage lead's to a cognitive decline, which becomes more prevalent as fighters age. Finally, reaction speed begins to slow down.

          A prime in boxing is a boxers physical peak, and you don't need to be a sport's scientist to know Usyk at 36 is far removed from his physical peak.
          You talk about age yet you don't understand the fundamentals of it because you're uneducated and ignorant.

          Zhang's health issues didn't stop him from dominating Joyce. Povetkin's knockout was carefully constructed not a lucky punch evident by the previous offensive sequences in the match up. The performances are fine it's you pulling at straws. I'm wondering who do you think is a good heavyweight?
          So where's the science?
          Again how is Usyk out of his prime? Saying he's out of his prime doesn't mean anything. His performance hasn't diminished and he isn't a fighter that regularly gets hit with clean shots.

          Zhang also beat Joyce who was a hyped up fighter.
          Joyce is slow as hell and got a name by beating up gatekeepers as well. His biggest wins are Dubious and Parker which weren't even great wins considering he got battered in both of them.

          Parker was punching him silly but his lack of power cost him the fight.
          Dubois was landing at will but his lack of experience ended the fight. Dubious is literally green.
          Joyce relies on his chin to win his fights so I wouldn't call that impressive amd the moment he faced a heavy hitter he folded.

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            #55
            Originally posted by bullydean

            So where's the science?
            Again how is Usyk out of his prime? Saying he's out of his prime doesn't mean anything. His performance hasn't diminished and he isn't a fighter that regularly gets hit with clean shots.

            Zhang also beat Joyce who was a hyped up fighter.
            Joyce is slow as hell and got a name by beating up gatekeepers as well. His biggest wins are Dubious and Parker which weren't even great wins considering he got battered in both of them.

            Parker was punching him silly but his lack of power cost him the fight.
            Dubois was landing at will but his lack of experience ended the fight. Dubious is literally green.
            Joyce relies on his chin to win his fights so I wouldn't call that impressive amd the moment he faced a heavy hitter he folded.
            What you think is impressive is irrelevant to the state of boxing because what Zhang did to Joyce was impressive.
            Furthermore, the science is readily available online. No I don't think you understand how Prime works, it's physical peak. A fighters Prime is there physical peak nothing else. Usyk is 36 that's far removed from his physical peak therefore he's not in his prime.
            Finally, it doesn't matter if you get hit regularly or not because it's the accumulation over a sustained period of time. For instance Amateur, professional, and training all involve damage to the brain, which affects cognitive functions.

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            • bullydean
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              #56
              Originally posted by unknowledgeablepugilist

              What you think is impressive is irrelevant to the state of boxing because what Zhang did to Joyce was impressive.
              Furthermore, the science is readily available online. No I don't think you understand how Prime works, it's physical peak. A fighters Prime is there physical peak nothing else. Usyk is 36 that's far removed from his physical peak therefore he's not in his prime.
              Finally, it doesn't matter if you get hit regularly or not because it's the accumulation over a sustained period of time. For instance Amateur, professional, and training all involve damage to the brain, which affects cognitive functions.
              More crybaby bs lol

              No proof, evidence, or science.

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