Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson: Lomachenko Should Be Undisputed, He Won That Fight!

[Smash]

So what. Haney is younger, bigger and is supposed to be more skilled, faster and stronger right? Yet he barely won the fight against an old, slow, past his prime Lomachenko. What are you gloating for? Haney is an embarrassment with his comments and his mediocre performance. If he dares to fight Shakur or Tank he's done.

lol im not gloating

i was hoping loma would get the nod

[rayzink72]

The real winner of the fight 8-4 Lomenchenko beats Haney if the bull**** gets taken away

[megas30]

Go back and rewatch the interview after the Muratalla fight. Care to explain why, when Muratalla said he wanted the winner of the main event, the interviewer said "you mean Devin Haney"? Why was Top Rank saying that Haney won the fight before it even happened?

Then you can explain why EVERY news outlet called that 115-113 Loma.

Why wouldn't a promoter want his fighter to win a fight ? I don't care what transpire before the fight because had Haney knocked Loma out would still talk about what an interviewer said?

Fact of the matter is, People wanted Loma to win and was sway by anything he did whether effective or not. Loma fought like an amateur. Casuals only see headshots and Loma had a few eye catchers and that was all. Haney had the variety of punches...body shots, upper cuts, check hooks, and Jabs. Loma was flurring to steal rds. The judges didn't fall for that.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Why wouldn't a promoter want his fighter to win a fight ? I don't care what transpire before the fight because had Haney knocked Loma out would still talk about what an interviewer said?

Fact of the matter is, People wanted Loma to win and was sway by anything he did whether effective or not. Loma fought like an amateur. Casuals only see headshots and Loma had a few eye catchers and that was all. Haney had the variety of punches...body shots, upper cuts, check hooks, and Jabs. Loma was flurring to steal rds. The judges didn't fall for that.

That's about the worst possible explanation. This was the last fight on Haney's Top Rank contract unless the rumor about him re-signing before the fight are true. Loma is the long-standing TR fighter, so your take only makes the situation more sketchy.

If Loma had been knocked out, nobody would care about it, because that's a legit win. If he had dominated, that would be a legit win. I went back and counted punches, and Loma out struck Haney in almost every round, and his shots were the more consequential in 8 rounds, even giving Haney credit for body work, which wasn't effectual. He popped Haney's head back all fight long with hard head shots, and Haney's bodywork didn't do anything. Many of them were low, and partially defended anyways by body movement, but you casuals don't understand the concept of a body defense, so you think they're clean scoring. Loma controlled the action the entire fight as well. He came forward when he wanted to, went back when he wanted to. He was in control of that fight. He came closest to a stoppage. Haney never even wobbled him.

Fact is, every single news outlet called that one for Loma by 7-5 or 8-4. When it's that universal, that should tell you something about your take.

[megas30]

That's about the worst possible explanation. This was the last fight on Haney's Top Rank contract unless the rumor about him re-signing before the fight are true. Loma is the long-standing TR fighter, so your take only makes the situation more sketchy.

If Loma had been knocked out, nobody would care about it, because that's a legit win. If he had dominated, that would be a legit win. I went back and counted punches, and Loma out struck Haney in almost every round, and his shots were the more consequential in 8 rounds, even giving Haney credit for body work, which wasn't effectual. He popped Haney's head back all fight long with hard head shots, and Haney's bodywork didn't do anything. Many of them were low, and partially defended anyways by body movement, but you casuals don't understand the concept of a body defense, so you think they're clean scoring. Loma controlled the action the entire fight as well. He came forward when he wanted to, went back when he wanted to. He was in control of that fight. He came closest to a stoppage. Haney never even wobbled him.

Fact is, every single news outlet called that one for Loma by 7-5 or 8-4. When it's that universal, that should tell you something about your take.

How can you say his body work was not effective? That's crazy. Those were some vicious body shots. The reason Loma is still standing is because those shots came from an arthodox angle. Had they been from a left hook to the body Loma would be passing blood or stiffen up in the ring. Because they would target the liver.

Besides that, he was getting countered with check hooks and uppercuts and eating jabs all night. Fights are scored rd by rd not amount of punches thrown. Loma won round 10 and 11 big, and this is what people like you are using to judge the fight. He won rd 3, 10 and 11. Other than that he got beat all night.

The punches you called head popping had that effect because Haney was trying to evade the punches by pulling his head straight back so it look that way. His dad told him not to do it and instead dip low. Loma didn't control no fight. He was hesitant to go in, because of the counters to the body. He was also getting beat in the clinches because he doesn't know how to fight on the inside. Haney walked him down most of the fight as per his dad, but in my mind, Haney had better success fighting of the back foot and outboxing Loma. You need to rewatch the fight. Loma tried to steal rds with pitty patty punches, which is an amateur style of fighting. Most were missing and grazing Haney. That's why both men faces look different at the end of the fight.

[crimsonfalcon07]

How can you say his body work was not effective? That's crazy. Those were some vicious body shots. The reason Loma is still standing is because those shots came from an arthodox angle. Had they been from a left hook to the body Loma would be passing blood or stiffen up in the ring. Because they would target the liver.

Besides that, he was getting countered with check hooks and uppercuts and eating jabs all night. Fights are scored rd by rd not amount of punches thrown. Loma won round 10 and 11 big, and this is what people like you are using to judge the fight. He won rd 3, 10 and 11. Other than that he got beat all night.

The punches you called head popping had that effect because Haney was trying to evade the punches by pulling his head straight back so it look that way. His dad told him not to do it and instead dip low. Loma didn't control no fight. He was hesitant to go in, because of the counters to the body. He was also getting beat in the clinches because he doesn't know how to fight on the inside. Haney walked him down most of the fight as per his dad, but in my mind, Haney had better success fighting of the back foot and outboxing Loma. You need to rewatch the fight. Loma tried to steal rds with pitty patty punches, which is an amateur style of fighting. Most were missing and grazing Haney. That's why both men faces look different at the end of the fight.

Because it wasn't effective. Loma was using body defense to take the sting anyways, and we all know Haney has no power. He hasn't scored so much as a knockdown in years. Loma wasn't hesitant to go in. He was getting in on Haney all fight. If you rewatched it, you did so with an agenda. Rewatch on slow and count punches, and you'll see Loma scoring more than Haney in most rounds. He was scoring flush. There's videos showing all the landed punches round by round, and Loma outlanded Haney in almost every round. Even giving him credit for the body work, those counters weren't landing and weren't scoring punches. I've rewatched it twice. If anything, it should be even more clear that Loma won. Compubox actually got quite a lot wrong.