Comments Thread For: Lomachenko After Haney's Hard Shove At Weigh-In: Now He's Mine; He's Scared

[gauze]

Loma fans should be pissed at him for acting like a fanboy during the whole build up. Dude doesn't even wanna say that he'll win ffs. Loser mentality if ever.

lomachenko fans are mostly white. we don't need to hype ourselves up. we let our actions and accomplishments speak for us. let the fists do the talking. we don't feel the need to state the obvious

[Cypocryphy]

lomachenko fans are mostly white. we don't need to hype ourselves up. we let our actions and accomplishments speak for us. let the fists do the talking. we don't feel the need to state the obvious

That's actually not true. Definitely not true.

[champion4ever]

Yeah. But the force that he pushed Loma with wasn't one that you do to sell a fight. That's a push where you could ruin a fight. And when he pushed Loma, he looked angry as hell. It was bizarre. You give a shove to sell a fight. You give a push when you have some real anger. I think what makes this really bad is that he took off real fast after the push. He ran off the stage right away. I've seen pushes before, but usually the guy stays on the stage, eyeing the other guy down and yelling. I've never seen a guy do that kind of push and then high-tail it out of there like that. WEAK.

I agree. Haney does appear to have some legitimate bad blood toward Loma. It seems personal. Devin's rationalization was that he was angry because Loma made him wait four long years in order to finally fight him.

That is not an excuse for shoving your opponent like that. You still have to be professional. This negative perception of him is going to really hurt his image among white boxing fans.

Whom already don't like him anyway because of his "white boy" comment. They have never forgiven him for that statement.

[LA_2_Vegas]

Haney trying to sell the fight, sure; but Loma has given him zero "chalkboard material" so he also has to work himself up too. Meanwhile, Haney has given Loma enough material to fill up several chalkboard, plus a push. If Loma can't show up with any fire then that's on him.

[jackblack008]

You can take bigga out of ****** but can't take ****** out of bigga

[gauze]

That's actually not true. Definitely not true.

how so? i mean most people i know in the boxing/fight community have big respect for lomachenko regardless. who do you consider his fanbase to be?

[kiaba360]

This felt like an act of immaturity and desperation. I think Haney is beginning to feel the weight of the moment, and could be trying to transfer his negative energy to Loma. The shove is a last ditch effort to disturb Loma's tranquility, in the hopes that he behaves ******ly in the ring. Funny thing is, this may be the spark that Loma needs to start early.

[LAchargers373]

Haney pushed his way into bumchenkos mind and soul and into the fans hearts

[Cypocryphy]

I agree. Haney does appear to have some legitimate bad blood toward Loma. It seems personal. Devin's rationalization was that he was angry because Loma made him wait four long years in order to finally fight him.

That is not an excuse for shoving your opponent like that. You still have to be professional. This negative perception of him is going to really hurt his image among white boxing fans.

Whom already don't like him anyway because of his "white boy" comment. They have never forgiven him for that statement.

Yeah. It definitely could. The other thing is that you can tell that Devin was raised in a middle/upper class family. He doesn't come from a poor background. But he wants to appear to the "audience" that he is like that. This is why people say he wants to be like Tank. (He's more like Ryan Garcia than he is like Tank.) Whatever people think of Tank, Tank is genuine. He is who he is. But with Haney, he comes off as pretend. Someone needs to talk to Devin and tell him to just be himself. If he just accepted who he is, that he comes from wealth, that he has a racially mixed family, things would be going a hundred times better for him. But HE BELIEVES (not that it's true) that he has to make himself look as if he's a part of that urban culture. He's not. He's a kid for the burbs. He can never change that, so he needs to just own it. Maybe it's too late now. I don't know.

[Cypocryphy]

how so? i mean most people i know in the boxing/fight community have big respect for lomachenko regardless. who do you consider his fanbase to be?

His fan base is multi-national and multi-cultural. Lot's of black Americans like Loma. Some might not be that vocal about it, but he has a lot of fans. He has a lot of Mexican American fans too. Fans from Mexico. Fans from Europe. Fans from South America.

To be honest, there are not a lot of white Americans that like boxing. Most white Americans like MMA more than boxing, and a big reason for that is due to wrestling being taught in middle school and high school. You grow up with an appreciation for grappling. Boxing has been relegated to urban gyms in ethnic communities, unfortunately. Maybe not so much in Europe, I don't know. But definitely in the states.

This is one of the reasons why we don't see a lot of white American boxers anymore. Back in the 60s and 70s, you had what was called the "white flight." White people left the cities for the suburbs. They didn't take boxing gyms with them, either. It's unfortunate.

I suppose a lot of mothers don't like their sons getting punched in the face after school. And that's all mothers from all backgrounds, which is one of the reasons our amateur boxing sucks now.

Anyway, that was a tangent.

BTW: If you ever wondered why so many boxers come from Argentina, they teach boxing in the schools.