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  • #51
    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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    Crawford also “broke his inactivity” by fighting Khan and Brook. Both washed out and irrelevant at 147.
    Next, Bud will be fighting Broner or Brandon Rios and you’ll be saying the same thing.
    Who do you think Crawford should fight then? Remember, they have to want to fight him. So, who have you got?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

      Now you're just not making any sense. Gor caught doing what exactly?? Its going to be an in house PPV regardless. Crawford is a free agent without a network contract, in order for the fight to take place, he would have to sign a one fight deal with Showtime, of which Haymon would be a part. Spence-Crawford is a much more lucrative fight for Haymon and Showtime, so why would they favor Spence-Thurman?? Make it make sense, just can't admit Bud ran off, and still is.
      What if Bud goes elsewhere after beating Spence in this 1 fight contract? You're trying to tell me Haymon would be fine with this? We all know what Haymon does with fighters when they fight for him. They have to be tied to multiple fights. The only one who wasn't, was Canelo. When he beat a PBC fighter in Plant, he walked away. Haymon doesn't want this. We know how he works and have done for years.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post

        was never going to happen so it doesn't matter. he made a demand that was never going to be fulfilled, knowing it wouldn't be, and the fight doesn't happen.

        so much so, that this man already had a fight lined up immediately after the negotiations fall apart.

        Crawford takes the heat for that. Simple as.
        Why wasn't it going to happen? If Crawford accepted a no guarantee on the money, don't you think he's entitled to know he isn't being f3cked over on the money side? Should he just accept whatever Haymon comes back with? Here Terence, we didn't make much on the PPV, 2 Mill is all you're getting. This while they take the rest. What is there to stop this from happening?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Teetotaler69 View Post

          Lmao it's not in-house because Crawford is a free agent. Therefore he can demand whatever he wants and if he's not happy he can speak out which he has a done. An in house fighter with a pbc contract absolutely cannot do that. Spencer doesn't want the fight dude. That simple. It was scheduled for November and still hasn't happened.



          Only reason I believe it happens now is because Oscar planned a two fight deal with Crawford and haymon can't have Crawford losing to ortiz so he figured he'd better cash out Spencer. If not then they're just absolutely wasting bud's time
          Because Bud doesn't want the fight, its no different from Ramirez against Prograis, Bud simply doesn't want to fight Spence, he's going to continue to find something wrong in order not to step in the ring with someone that has a high possibility of beating him. With one belt, and a chance to win all of the others in one fight, there's NO WAY he shouldn't agree to a fight, knowing that even if he loses or wins, he's going to receive truckloads of money from the rematches. Crawford is not used to being in a position where someone can come out as clearly better afterwards.
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          • #55
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            Crawford agreed to everything. He just wanted to see where the money was being spent. That's all. But anyone who isn't deranged knows Haymon was frustrating the negotiations to force Crawford to walk away like Fury did to Usyk. Negotiations do not take as long as Haymon was.

            Then you add in the fact Spence said he couldn't fight at Welter which is why he had a fight scheduled with Thurman at 154 because he was too heavy to make 147.

            Play this mad game all you want. But anyone who isn't in a cult-like environment knows who ducked who.
            That's just silly. No boxer ever has been given approval over all expenses, and by the way, they sent him the contract that showed the expenses. It wasn't enough because he doesn't want to fight someone that there's not a clear win as the outcome.

            Spence never said that he couldn't fight at welterweight, he said that he wasn't willing to fight anyone at welterweight except Crawford, the same way that Haney said that he doesn't want to fight anyone at lightweight unless its Tank or Shakur.

            The fight for Thurman was just a farce for the sanctioning bodies to not strip him, so that the fight could still be for undisputed, in the meantime while the Crawford fight was being finalized. But, Errol hasn't moved from what he said from the start, the only hold up is Bud finding any reason not to get in the ring. Every British fighter doesn't make these excuses, that's the one thing I do respect, they will step up and get in the ring win or lose, mostly lose though.
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            • #56
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              Why wasn't it going to happen? If Crawford accepted a no guarantee on the money, don't you think he's entitled to know he isn't being f3cked over on the money side? Should he just accept whatever Haymon comes back with? Here Terence, we didn't make much on the PPV, 2 Mill is all you're getting. This while they take the rest. What is there to stop this from happening?
              He's been offered WAY MORE than anyone with one belt and way less drawing power has ever been offered against a unified 3 belt champion. If Crawford is confident, then he knows that with a win, he's in the driver's seat. No, he doesn't want that loss and accepting the fact that his pound for pound ranking is a lower level when it comes to THE BIG FISH!!@
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              • #57
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                Spence could have kept the titles by agreeing to fight Crawford. What are you talking about? Watching you being forced to come up with an explanation that even people brain damaged by ****** would reject on account of it's laughable and illogical insanity, is hilarious. Haha.

                Negotiations couldn't be finalised. Haymon and Spence made sure they couldn't. Crawford was ready and willing. They weren't.
                Crawford was offered WAY MORE than any other one belt against a 3 belt unified champion. If Bud was confident, then he would have accepted the fight, but he's not used to going into a fight not already the outcome knowing that he's in the driver's seat seat for the rematch. But no, Crawford knows that he his can't stand Spence beating him would show that the P4P ranki3got it completely wrong, and he's not ready for that type of work. Errol never left negotiations, as we can clearly see, but on the other hand, if a Rocha or Broner pops up as a possibility, Crawford will oblige, as usual.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                  What if Bud goes elsewhere after beating Spence in this 1 fight contract? You're trying to tell me Haymon would be fine with this? We all know what Haymon does with fighters when they fight for him. They have to be tied to multiple fights. The only one who wasn't, was Canelo. When he beat a PBC fighter in Plant, he walked away. Haymon doesn't want this. We know how he works and have done for years.
                  Who is WE, you have biased opinions, and everyone in the chat can tell you that. If Crawford manages to get a win, his most lucrative fight would be the rematch. If he decides to go in a different direction, I don't believe from his history, that he would fight Boots, Ortiz, or Stanionis. Crawford would probably look for the low hanging fruit.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                    Crawford was offered WAY MORE than any other one belt against a 3 belt unified champion. If Bud was confident, then he would have accepted the fight, but he's not used to going into a fight not already knowing the outcome. He should have already accepted the fight
                    knowing that he's in the driver's seat seat for the rematch. But no, Crawford knows that he his can't stand Spence beating him would show that the P4P ranki3got it completely wrong, and he's not ready for that type of work. Errol never left negotiations, as we can clearly see, but on the other hand, if a Rocha or Broner pops up as a possibility, Crawford will oblige, as usual.
                    He's a duck, and you people are the very reason why he can do it without repercussions.

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                    • #60
                      Anyone who believes Ugas is elite level is a dullard.

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