Comments Thread For: Rolly Romero: Barroso Hits 'A Million Times Harder' Than Gervonta Davis; Felt Every Punch

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #21
    Originally posted by Greenfield02
    So what you are telling us is that Tank doesn't hit hard, but was able to knock you out. So what you are really trying to say is that you have a glass chin. Romero is suffering from John Ryder syndrome, this syndrome symptoms include, hallucinations, insecurity, excessive whinnying, down playing your opponent by saying he's not good, but beat your a** anyways which really tells us everything about you....
    Romero, for the large majority of his fight vs Tank Davis? Was moving forward and pressuring Davis.

    Romero was not fighting like a fighter, who was intimidated or shook by Davis's power.

    The knock-out, did not come out of nowhere 'But it was pretty much the first time in the fight, were Davis shook Romero'.

    Romero vs Barroso. Romero was most likely from the very start more apprehensive, and getting more hurt by Borroso's punches.

    That is why from HIS perception, he believes Borroso hits with more power than Davis etc.

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    • A.B Counterhooks
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      #22
      That proves punch power is last thing to go, maybe barroso does hit harder than tank but is not as accurate as he is, power combined with accuracy is pure danger.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Leicesterage

        Certainly, but Tank's best shots on him were when Gamboa was trying to get in to do damage. Just like all the rest.

        It's like Tank knows to look for the fundamentals of distance closing and then bank on check shots to take you out.

        I can't recall a single opponent that he's iced at range when they weren't mid-throw. Not one. Think like Roy Jones vs. Glen Johnson.
        Your analysis is accurate, no doubt about it! I do believe Isaac Cruz won their fight; at least he deserved a draw. Neverthelessz that Gamboa went ten more rounds with a torn achilles actually speaks to your point. Tank didn't take advantage, or press the action, until Gamboa did. Tank is great at catching his opponents after their punches. It's almost as if he let's opponents become confident, and then makes them pay for it
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          #24
          TBH I've heard this one hundred times. There are guys who can really hit when they manoeuvre you into position & detonate their best shot. Then, there are some guys that just hit. Like, literally, every shot, they just are heavy-handed. I remember a guy in the 1960s comparing sparring with Ingamar Johanssen & Liston & he said that if he lined his right hand up & got ready Johanssen hit just as hard as Liston, but Sonny didn't have to line it up. He hurt you with every punch he threw, even flicking jabs to the body hurt. Liston just was heavy handed.

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            #25
            Give Barroso a rematch--he deserves it.

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              #26
              Give Barroso a rematch--he deserves it.

              Thats not how it will work. TBH, I've never felt so much like deleting this %%%% & never watching boxing again. I love the skill, speed, athleticism, knowledge, perception & sheer guts of guys from Ali & Frazier, then SRL, Duran & Hearns through Floyd, McCallum, Manny, Roy Jones, to Tank & Shakur but I am sick to death of decent men like Ismael Barroso getting stiffed by lousy tripe hounds with money. Sick of it. Read 'The harder they fall' by Bud Schulberg, nothing changes, if anything it gets worse. So, boxing, I'm out, over & out.

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #27
                Originally posted by 1Eriugenus
                TBH I've heard this one hundred times. There are guys who can really hit when they manoeuvre you into position & detonate their best shot. Then, there are some guys that just hit. Like, literally, every shot, they just are heavy-handed. I remember a guy in the 1960s comparing sparring with Ingamar Johanssen & Liston & he said that if he lined his right hand up & got ready Johanssen hit just as hard as Liston, but Sonny didn't have to line it up. He hurt you with every punch he threw, even flicking jabs to the body hurt. Liston just was heavy handed.
                Good point.

                I have never ever had the perception, that Deontay Wilder has that kind of power 'The type of power you are describing'. The last Heavyweights who seemed to have that power were most likely David Tua, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Vitali Kiltschko.

                Maybe many fighters, may have hit with more power 'With their best punch'. But overall every single punch, Jab, mid-range, long-range, body punches, straight punches, hooks and swings 'They all have damaging power'.

                Romero is most likely describing this type of power, which you have identified.

                Romero was not hurt by Tank Davis, until he was hurt bad.

                This dimension to Wilder's power, probably makes him more dangerous 'Because a fighter will struggle to get use to his power'.

                Fury in the third fight vs Wilder, thought he had the measure of Wilder's power then 'BAM, Wilder decked him' etc.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-14-2023, 07:01 PM.

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                • juanpablo
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                  #28
                  Barroso could be a harder puncher than Tank. Tank doesn't have just raw power, he has a wide variety of tools including a grossly underrated ring IQ that makes him what he is today.

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                  • trippleupper
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                    #29
                    "Venezuelan veteran’s vaunted"

                    "baffled Barroso"

                    "Barroso" means "muddy" in Spanish, and is likely
                    the way you feel when Barroso hits you: muddy,
                    muddled up. Look at his record: 24 wins, 22 KOs.

                    What was Barroso doing between his August, 2005
                    debut and his second fight in March, 2008?
                    Could his record be incomplete?

                    Maybe not a million times... but I believe it

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                    • Boro
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                      #30
                      This comment from Rolly makes perfect sense to me, Barroso probably just hits hard with everything and Tanks "power" is only apparent when he lands a near perfect counter.

                      Arreola for example said a similar thing about Vitali vs Wilder in terms of power - Vitali hits you "like a sledgehammer" and you feel each and every punch throughout your body because he aims to punch through you.

                      And Wilder hits you with whipping snappy punches "like a towel" catching you at the end of punches and eventually "the big one" catches you unaware.

                      But overall he described Vitali as having more power despite never dropping him...

                      It's just like a lot of the hardest punchers in the sport aren't actually at the top level, they're often journeymen who just don't have the delivery system to take advantage of said power.

                      E.G. Helenius, Price these guys have/had ridiculous power, they're just fundamentally flawed either mentally or in terms of ring IQ...
                      Last edited by Boro; 05-14-2023, 10:00 PM.

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