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  • Roger Mellie
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    #21
    Originally posted by freeloada


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    Manny Pacquiao went three blistering rounds with unbeaten super-welterweight Shawn Porter as the Filipino pound-for-pound king's training for his November 14 clash with Miguel Cotto went up a notch with his first sparring session.

    “They both traded hard shots,” said Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach after the workout at the Shape Up Gym inside the Cooyeesan Hotel in Baguio City. “Porter is (very strong).”

    Now that sparring has started, Pacquiao will now have to do it thrice a week and on Thursday, Roach said he will go four rounds, two with the Ohio-bred Porter and another two with Urbano Antillon, a lightweight contender from California.

    After Wednesday's session, Pacquiao will have to get himself ready again for the Saturday session.

    Porter and Antillon arrived in the country from Los Angeles last Sunday but only made it to Baguio the following day due to massive flooding in Metropolis and low-lying areas in Luzon the past few days.

    Porter, 21, an alternate in the US team to the 2008 Beijing Olympics, has a 10-0 win-loss card with eight knockouts and is revving up for a fight sometime in the third week of November in Mississippi.

    Owing to the similarity of his fighting style to Cotto, Porter will be Pacquiao's main sparring partner.

    “He's just perfect (for this training camp),” said Roach, who will camp out in the City of Pines until Pacquiao advises his entire team to transfer to either Los Angeles or even straight to Las Vegas.

    Meanwhile, Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum, who heads Top Rank Inc., is arriving in Manila tomorrow morning for the media day scheduled that day.

    If weather permits, Arum will be flown to Baguio by former Ilocos Sur Governor Chavit Singson's private plane.

    If it is deemed unsafe to travel by air because of the current weather conditions, Arum will be brought there on board one of Singson's full-sized SUVs.
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    • rao007
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      #22
      Originally posted by johncods
      U think that punch to hatton won't keep cotto at bay?? In the oscar fight pac was not going for power shots. If cotto tries to bulldoze his way to manny he might end up like hatton.

      Do you think he'll get a chance to wind up like that against cotto?
      Last edited by rao007; 09-29-2009, 05:27 PM.

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      • rao007
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        #23
        Originally posted by braddman
        Lifting weights doesn't equal punching power. Please tell me you don't believe that.

        It depends on what kind weight lifting--but he needs to do something. I'm Pac fan but people are overrating his punching power above 130. He gotta be realistic mangg. Do you honestly think those little left straights is gonna hurt Cotto's granite chin? The only way I see winning Pacquiao is to gain a little muscle so when he lands he does so with AUTHORITY. Make the big man rethink his game plan.

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        • MOREBASS
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          #24
          Originally posted by rao007
          It depends on what kind weight lifting--but he needs to do something. I'm Pac fan but people are overrating his punching power above 130. He gotta be realistic mangg. Do you honestly think those little left straights is gonna hurt Cotto's granite chin? The only way I see winning Pacquiao is to gain a little muscle so when he lands he does so with AUTHORITY. Make the big man rethink his game plan.


          Punching power comes more from lower body strength, mechanics, and velocity. Weight lifting strength is totally different, and besides, lifting weights takes away from a fighters speed, if overdone.

          Besides, it isn't always about pure punching power. The shots that hurt most are the ones that aren't seen, and in Manny's case...the angles and volume that he throws from are very akward.

          Cotto isn't slow by any means, but he will not only have to see the punches coming in order to defend, but he will have to be able to react in time, which are two totally separate problems.



          Anyways, its good to hear that Pacquiao is going to get some quality sparring and I think that Porter is the perfect candidate, given his stature and style. Also, a great opportunity for Porter to get some quality training/sparring for his own fight in November.

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          • rao007
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            #25
            Originally posted by MOREBASS
            Punching power comes more from lower body strength, mechanics, and velocity. Weight lifting strength is totally different, and besides, lifting weights takes away from a fighters speed, if overdone.

            Besides, it isn't always about pure punching power. The shots that hurt most are the ones that aren't seen, and in Manny's case...the angles and volume that he throws from are very akward.

            Cotto isn't slow by any means, but he will not only have to see the punches coming in order to defend, but he will have to be able to react in time, which are two totally separate problems.



            Anyways, its good to hear that Pacquiao is going to get some quality sparring and I think that Porter is the perfect candidate, given his stature and style. Also, a great opportunity for Porter to get some quality training/sparring for his own fight in November.
            True maybe Pacquiao will hurt Cotto simply on speed, angles, volume of punches, and also applying Plyometrics to his regimen to get more strength without lossing speed, but I honestly don't know if it will be enough to punch drunk Cotto into submission. Maybe outpointing will do. Like I said, people shouldn't overrate Pacquiao's punching power above 130 like some welterweight.

            Here's a picture of the punch Hatton got KO'd with. RIGHT ON THE CHIN. Located near nerves that can cause massive shock to the body. I don't think you need massive power if you know where to place your punches.

            Last edited by rao007; 09-29-2009, 07:14 PM.

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            • freeloada
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              #26
              Originally posted by rao007
              That's not what Clottey said.
              haha.. thats why clottey got knocked down by a jab huh ?

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              • rao007
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                #27
                Originally posted by freeloada
                haha.. thats why clottey got knocked down by a jab huh ?
                I'm talking about Cotto being easily hit by Clottey's account. For every three punches he threw 2 would land on Cotto.

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