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  • Bronx2245
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    #11
    Originally posted by Clegg
    For whatever reason, a lot of TR fighters avoiding fights recently. Ramirez, Zepeda, Barboza all talked the talk but then turned down the opportunities.
    Not just TR, remember Issac Cruz and William Zepeda turned down a shot to fight Shakur Stevenson!

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      #12
      Originally posted by Rebelrbg
      Bad decision Prograis, now he's going to be stuck fighting on a network few care to watch against a bunch of mid-tier fighters, besides Hitchens, who is not widely known. At least he will get overpaid for his troubles, the same way that they did with Haney when he was there, but will suffer deeply with respect to his marketability and being able to get the big fights against the 140 lbers at Top Rank.
      Who has a voluntary title defense? Prograis.

      Who has a title opportunity and gets to skip the eliminator process? Paro.

      Meanwhile, Barboza/Ramirez are twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines. Ramirez and Barboza are chronically inactive, and all TR can do is recycle Pedraza/Commey. The obvious match-up to make is Barboza/Ramirez. Let's see if TR is willing to pay them exactly what they want. I suspect that TR wants another promoter to cover their cost, but no other promoter will bid high enough.
      Last edited by kiaba360; 05-08-2023, 07:11 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by kiaba360

        Who has a voluntary title defense? Prograis.

        Who has a title opportunity and gets to skip the eliminator process? Paro.

        Meanwhile, Barboza/Ramirez are twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines. Ramirez and Barboza are chronically inactive, and all TR can do is recycle Pedraza/Commey. The obvious match-up to make is Barboza/Ramirez. Let's see if TR is willing to pay them exactly what they want. I suspect that TR wants another promoter to cover their cost, but no other promoter will bid high enough.
        Ramirez just fought, but I don't disagree about Bob being cheap, except for the fighters that he loves like Loma. I'm just noting the bigger fights that he could have at Top Rank with Teo, Taylor, Ramirez, and a host of others at 140.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Rebelrbg

          Ramirez just fought, but I don't disagree about Bob being cheap, except for the fighters that he loves like Loma. I'm just noting the bigger fights that he could have at Top Rank with Teo, Taylor, Ramirez, and a host of others at 140.
          Ramirez fought once in 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023. The pandemic is partly to blame for everyone's inactivity, but it has also shown how complacent many boxers are.

          Teo/Taylor is the most significant fight that TR can offer, and we don't know if both will be with TR much longer.

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            #15
            Originally posted by kiaba360
            The winner of a purse-bid doesn't have to negotiate though. All the negotiating was supposed to be done BEFORE the purse-bid was ordered. Barboza should be frustrated withTR for thinking the match-up was worth less than MR. Sanctioning bodies need to penalize boxers who enter purse-bids and then renege when their promoter doesn't win or the money isn't to their liking.
            Right? Barboza claims he is worth more money yet his own promoter bid LESS than Matchroom did.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Rebelrbg
              Bad decision Prograis, now he's going to be stuck fighting on a network few care to watch against a bunch of mid-tier fighters, besides Hitchens, who is not widely known. At least he will get overpaid for his troubles, the same way that they did with Haney when he was there, but will suffer deeply with respect to his marketability and being able to get the big fights against the 140 lbers at Top Rank.
              He could possibly get Ryan Garcia though. That's a big payday.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Clegg
                For whatever reason, a lot of TR fighters avoiding fights recently. Ramirez, Zepeda, Barboza all talked the talk but then turned down the opportunities.
                Zepeda hasn't turned anything down. The others did. Common denominator, Rick Mirigian. Overestimating his fighters worth.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by rudy
                  Jake Catterall why did he sign with Hearns no world title fight.
                  Catterall already has a fight lined up, before Programs signed. He'll most likely get the winner.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    Just go ahead and make Ramirez vs. Barboza for TR, and Catterrall vs. Hitchins for MatchRoom!
                    Ramirez will be waiting for Lopez if he can beat Taylor. Catterall has a fight at the moment.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by kiaba360

                      Ramirez fought once in 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023. The pandemic is partly to blame for everyone's inactivity, but it has also shown how complacent many boxers are.

                      Teo/Taylor is the most significant fight that TR can offer, and we don't know if both will be with TR much longer.
                      Three reasons there. Pandemic, got beat, got married.

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