Comments Thread For: John Ryder Believes Canelo is Now in Decline: He's Past His Best!

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  • Lefty0616
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    #11
    I'll take ""What are things a fighter says after he loses his fight for $300" Alex.
    Last edited by Lefty0616; 05-07-2023, 10:28 AM.

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    • SUBZER0ED
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      #12
      I think Canelo's supporters are missing Ryder's point. Canelo said he wanted a homecoming KO, and he probably would have gotten it, in his prime. Ryder all but admitted that he isn't that good himself, yet he lasted 12 rounds even after an early hard knock down.

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      • factsarenice
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        #13
        Originally posted by pretty ste
        If anybody past their prime is John Ryder dude had 6 loses took a beating by canelo face got crushed and he still saying canelo past his prime because he went 12 dude is loko 35 wash up canelo carried him is canelo still his prime no ofcoarse not he's 32 but he still good enough to whoop coke head benavidez
        The fight would happen but Canelo doesn't fight Mexicans.
        The irony is a little tough to defend....no?​
        Last edited by factsarenice; 05-07-2023, 11:42 AM.

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        • JonDP
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          #14
          Why is this guy shooting himself in the foot? He should be saying canelo is better than ever and make himself look good!

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          • factsarenice
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            #15
            Originally posted by Count Madison
            guy was never really anything special, look him easy bivol and mayweather beat him
            Styles and timing make fights. First, elite level, prime boxers give everyone problems. Floyd never fought prime Canelo, that's just a fact. Canelo improved until he was a middleweight when Canelo was favored and Floyd turned down the rematch. Conversely, Canelo's team felt he would catch a past his prime Bivol in the later rounds but Bivol proved stronger than expected. Neither fight was easy or over until the 12th round.
            Last edited by factsarenice; 05-07-2023, 12:44 PM.

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            • Greenfield02
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              #16
              So a past his prime Canelo completely whooped you? Sounds good... Thanks for the information...

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              • elfag
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                #17
                Originally posted by pretty ste
                If anybody past their prime is John Ryder dude had 6 loses took a beating by canelo face got crushed and he still saying canelo past his prime because he went 12 dude is loko 35 wash up canelo carried him is canelo still his prime no ofcoarse not he's 32 but he still good enough to whoop coke head benavidez

                lol "canelo carried him" thats a new excuse


                canelo quite clearly was trying to take him out and gassed late again like always.

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                • IceTrayDaGang
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                  #18
                  he's declining... and he tries to cover it up by getting a new hair cut, shaving off his beard, etc... this fight against Ryder.. Nelo came out looking like a 21 year old nelo but didnt perform like it..

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                  • Combat Talk Radio
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JonDelPrado
                    Why is this guy shooting himself in the foot? He should be saying canelo is better than ever and make himself look good!
                    He's honest. Which is refreshing.

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                    • factsarenice
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Nelo just needs to perform well in the big fights now and get wins. Don't matter how he looks
                      This is kind of long but hear me out...

                      First, Canelo has plenty of KO's, he doesn't need a KO to hype a rematch with Bivol. I think we can agree that marketability is not Canelo's problem. Andrade yes, Canelo no. Second, Eddie Reynoso knew that everything Ryder does Canelo does better. Ryder was not going to beating Canelo, I think we can agree on that too.

                      If that's true and Canelo's team are truly looking at beating Bivol (I believe they are) it would make perfect sense to put Caneo in the ring with a strong, durable guy that could go the distance. Again, If the KO came it came but that doesn't prepare Canelo for Bivol. As a trainer, I strongly suspect that Reynoso was looking closely at work rate, quickness, and endurance, not power. Knowing that Canelo's best opposition can concentrate hard enough to keep it close for 6-7 rounds means that Canelo needs to be strong in rounds 7-12.

                      I may be alone but IMO, Canelo paced himself, fought hard and broke him down all 12 rounds, EXACTLY what he set out to accomplish
                      Last edited by factsarenice; 05-07-2023, 11:38 AM.

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