In prime, who is the better fighter, COTTO or VARGAS????

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  • Animalistic 5.0
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    #81
    Vargas is an overrated fighter.

    He got his ass kick by Trinidad, De La Hoya, Mosley and Mayorga. Lost to Winky but got the decision. Who he beat besides Quartey? and Quartey was coming of a 1 year lay off, Catillejo was past prime.

    Vargas is overrated!

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    • jazluvr
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      #82
      Originally posted by Deeznuts
      WTF is everyone talking about...who was the prime Vargas? The one that got KTFO by Tito and got knockdown by Rivera a nobody in his comeback fight. Or the one that pumped steroids into his veins and got KTFO again and later KTFO by Mosley. You guys are fkng ridiculous
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      • Kevin Jesus
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        #83
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        ummm......i don't know maybe the guy who went 4 out of 5 against winky , yory boy , raul marquez , quartey and tito in a space of 2 plus years?
        Cotto is gonna be 2-2 by the end of Nov 14th and the 2 wins will be thanks to Gomez and Jennings.

        Gomez W
        Margarito L
        Jennings W
        Pacquiao L

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          #84
          Originally posted by Deeznuts
          WTF is everyone talking about...who was the prime Vargas? The one that got KTFO by Tito and got knockdown by Rivera a nobody in his comeback fight. Or the one that pumped steroids into his veins and got KTFO again and later KTFO by Mosley. You guys are fkng ridiculous
          Well, if Tito KTFO him, it does not mean he is a **** fighter. Currently, IMO, he is better than Cotto. Cotto is just beginning though, we'll see where he ends up.

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #85
            Cotto!!!!!!

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              #86
              Originally posted by jthoang
              He was damaged goods after Tito. He was managed very poorly, Vargas could've been a great fighter. They threw him to the lions too fast.
              I agree with this. However, we know this only in hindsight. The fact that he faced them at that age shows how advanced he was. Like another user said, Cotto wasn't **** at 22, Vargas already had the Winky and Ike wins at that age.

              Looking back on his career it's easy to see how he was put in against the top guys too early, but while it was happening, it didn't seem that way. He was so good that it appeared that fighting anything but those top guys would be a waste of his time.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
                Cotto is gonna be 2-2 by the end of Nov 14th and the 2 wins will be thanks to Gomez and Jennings.

                Gomez W
                Margarito L
                Jennings W
                Pacquiao L
                hahaha. be fair. it's 3-2, the other courtesy of clottey. still not sure come november but hoping for a pac win.

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                • tito yuca
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Deeznuts
                  If his shield is getting cracked on his glass chin into another dimension than yes
                  I don't blame Cotto for quitting, and believe that Vargas refusing to quit ended up costing him, but you gotta admit Vargas showed more heart. He got knocked down brutally 3 times in the 12th against an all-time great in Tito (undefeated at the time) and got up everytime. Cotto took a knee and quit against a guy with 5 losses who he was expected to beat. Very different scenarios.

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                  • tito yuca
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ..David..
                    Cmon , vargas was good but never a superstar ...

                    He fought with courage and all that but cotto its superior in everyway, jab, ring generalship, speed, footwork, intelligence etc etc...

                    I dont think they are on the same league
                    Never a superstar? He was a P4P guy before the Tito fight.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0
                      Vargas is an overrated fighter.

                      He got his ass kick by Trinidad, De La Hoya, Mosley and Mayorga. Lost to Winky but got the decision. Who he beat besides Quartey? and Quartey was coming of a 1 year lay off, Catillejo was past prime.

                      Vargas is overrated!
                      Like Mr. Pink said, Vargas went 4/5 against Winky, Campas, Marquez, Quartey, and Trinidad in a 2 year span beginning when he was 21 and ending when he was 23. If this is not impressive, I don't know what is.

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