The Lightweight division is what the Welterweight division should be

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  • Flickergrab98
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    The Lightweight division is what the Welterweight division should be

    In the past three years, we’ve had three championship matches in which the best fought the best and it ended in an upset victory for the challenger. The last upset produced the first undisputed champion that the division has ever seen in decades. And just when I was giving up hope on seeing Davis vs. Garcia happening, it then finally comes to fruition without needing to dangle any belts in front of their faces to make it happen. The amount of revenue it pulled in was more than 6x higher than the winner’s second highest-selling ppv bout.

    Compare that to Welterweight, where the talent is there but the will is most certainly not. We are so goddamn close having an undisputed champ, all it would take is one fight between two of the best p4p boxers on the planet. And those guys just won’t settle on any sensible agreement even with the chance to be undisputed champ and the potentially massive revenues of cash for incentives. Instead of 12 rounds of them in the ring together, they force us to find excitement where there is none by teasing us with news of whatever’s going on at the negotiating table. And then there’s Jaron Ennis squandering his talent on dudes that nobody cares about instead of fighting top 10 ranked opponents. Same with Ortiz Jr. Good luck getting a fight between those two in our lifetimes.

    Edit: I forgot to mention that next we’re about to see Loma challenge Haney for all the belts too. Out of all the glamour divisions, there truly is none that are more active than lightweight is right now
    Last edited by Flickergrab98; 04-30-2023, 01:26 PM.
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    Oh and don’t forget about the massive dive the Spence and Crawford’s activity has taken. They’re fighting once for every year now for christ’s sake!

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      #3
      Tank and Garcia have done nothing at 135 for you to be crowing about.

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        #4
        Originally posted by 4truth
        Tank and Garcia have done nothing at 135 for you to be crowing about.
        They literally just had a super fight knowing the risks and not even having any belt as a reward. Do you think Ortiz Jr. and Ennis will go to the trouble of making that happen anytime soon? I mean, I sure as hell would love to see it, but if Spence and Crawford can’t even make it happen when all logical routes are leading them to each other, then why would Ennis & Ortiz be able to? Actually, why were Garcia and Davis able to make their fight happen before Spence and Crawford even though they had less to gain and more excuses for why they couldn’t make it happen?

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          Davis - Garcia is irrelevant for lightweight division.

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            #6
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            Davis - Garcia is irrelevant for lightweight division.
            Two of the most popular lightweight boxers fighting after years of fans demanding to see it happen isn’t relevant to lightweight division…
            Care to elaborate?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Flickergrab98
              Two of the most popular lightweight boxers fighting after years of fans demanding to see it happen isn’t relevant to lightweight division…
              Care to elaborate?
              What should I elaborate? It was not a lightweight fight.

              We have Haney - Lomachenko scheduled btw. The winner will be the king of division.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                What should I elaborate? It was not a lightweight fight.

                We have Haney - Lomachenko scheduled btw. The winner will be the king of division.
                I’m well aware of both of those things. Looking forward to Loma-Haney, rooting for Loma, personally. But to bring up the catchweight Davis-Garcia misses the broader point; a real obtuse “trees before the forest” argument.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Flickergrab98
                  Two of the most popular lightweight boxers fighting after years of fans demanding to see it happen isn’t relevant to lightweight division…
                  Care to elaborate?
                  garcia hasnt fought at lightweight in 2 and a half years. garcia wasnt a top guy there anyway so not sure what the big deal is fighting an unranked 140 pounder with a rehydration clause.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Flickergrab98

                    I’m well aware of both of those things. Looking forward to Loma-Haney, rooting for Loma, personally. But to bring up the catchweight Davis-Garcia misses the broader point; a real obtuse “trees before the forest” argument.
                    including tank davis in any discussion about top fights being made is just downright silly.

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