Did Mayweather ruin boxing?

[Offensive Wizardry]

Im 70 and in Australia, what do you mean defend Mayweather, from what? the guy is a ATG boxer that's the only perspective I take notice of unless I knew him on a personal level I cant judge him as a man based on media narrative, dam I spent 20 yrs fighting media over Pit Bulls ( I was the first to import the breed into Aus early 80s) so I know how twisted and agenda driving the media can be, and for that reason I don't judge anybody based on what the media put.

who asked you how old you are? you're australian? fine. defend mayweather's reputation. that's clearly what you are doing here. you also defended him when i made that thread about why if he's a billionaire why is he still fighting? did you not? and did floyd go to prison for beating his wife?

is that a fact? did that happen?

yes or no?




an example of a "media narrative" would be trump is a russian agent with dementia who colluded with ***** and russia to defeat hillary in 2016.

that's a media narrative.

you want another example of media narrative? trump ordered january 6 attack on the capitol.

those are media narratives.

not actual convictions which is what floyd did. his daughter also is the baby momma of a rapper named nbayoungboy who has herpes and she actually tried to stab to death a female competitor and was arrested for it.

these are facts, not media narratives. these area actual events that happened. just like you importing murderous animals to australia. you being 70 years old should know by now what constitute as a media narrative vs actual facts.

You invest into what is spoon-fed to you about famous people on a personal level, I don't defend Floyd there is nothing to defend I cant judge who I don't know and I try not to hold preconceived bias, I give reason for my view on a subject it's not defence, I think and operate logistically not emotionally.

there are no preconceived biases here. i despise media. i judge floyd based on what he did. as a boxer, he never fought a single bona fide all time great who was in their prime. he is a hypocrite who accused others of things he did himself like catchweights, accusing opponents of ped use without a shred of evidence then hiring that same opponent's trainer himself, calling himself TBE when the true TBE is sugar ray robinson.


what you think your old age gives you some kind of shield from being emotional?




as you have clearly demonstrated to me alone multiple times,

that's a lie.



stick to operating on the logistics of getting your next stool softener old man.

[Keleneki]

It's been a slippery slope, starting with Sugar Ray Leonard, who was the first "A-Side/B-Side" champ, with how he played games with Hearns & Hagler..

Then comes Oscar, who rode the "pretty boy" aesthetic and being an Olympian to being the prototype for Floyd, getting favorable cards and dictating terms

Floyd came like a mix of Leonard & Oscar and sort of added an element of "letting fights marinate".

Now, the whole game is full of guys who think they're the "A-side", get favorable cards, and let fights marinate.

It's madness.

That's really well written.

[Pigeons]

I don't think you can be a hardcore boxing fan for life. This sport hates any fans it still has too much. I think you can be a hardcore fan for 10-15 years and always carry that love for boxing, but you can't spend your life following this sport. It's barely organized.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

This is not a Floyd hate thread and I would like to hear honest opinions on this :

Floyd set multiple gate/PPV records and became the most paid not only boxer but athlete at some point. Is it fair to say that now every boxer and their mom look at Floyd's paydays and ask for insane money to fight top opponents? Is it over for the fans? Are we only going to see 1-2 top fights a year because of it?

All I hear this days is "yeah I'm willing to fight anyone.... If the money is right", and the money is never right for them. Now I am not saying boxers shouldn't get paid well. They absolutely do but the delusional landscape Floyd created for the existing and upcoming stars is working against the sport's best interest.

The name of the game now is to become an Instagram or YouTube champ and ask for millions to fight. If you enjoy watching Paul vs Woodley, your time is now.

No.

Joe Louis died broke and none of the fans who cheered him on helped him. Floyd put the work in...blaming him is asanine.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Boom! Floyd earned his way to the top.

Floyd doesn't even eat candy lol his discipline is well known. He's earned every penny.

[Roadblock]

who asked you how old you are? you're australian? fine. defend mayweather's reputation. that's clearly what you are doing here. you also defended him when i made that thread about why if he's a billionaire why is he still fighting? did you not? and did floyd go to prison for beating his wife?

is that a fact? did that happen?

yes or no?




an example of a "media narrative" would be trump is a russian agent with dementia who colluded with ***** and russia to defeat hillary in 2016.

that's a media narrative.

you want another example of media narrative? trump ordered january 6 attack on the capitol.

those are media narratives.

not actual convictions which is what floyd did. his daughter also is the baby momma of a rapper named nbayoungboy who has herpes and she actually tried to stab to death a female competitor and was arrested for it.

these are facts, not media narratives. these area actual events that happened. just like you importing murderous animals to australia. you being 70 years old should know by now what constitute as a media narrative vs actual facts.





there are no preconceived biases here. i despise media. i judge floyd based on what he did. as a boxer, he never fought a single bona fide all time great who was in their prime. he is a hypocrite who accused others of things he did himself like catchweights, accusing opponents of ped use without a shred of evidence then hiring that same opponent's trainer himself, calling himself TBE when the true TBE is sugar ray robinson.


what you think your old age gives you some kind of shield from being emotional?




as you have clearly demonstrated to me alone multiple times,

that's a lie.



stick to operating on the logistics of getting your next stool softener old man.

I thought you were taking a census what does it matter where Im from, you talk a lot about bias like you don't have any that's amusing in the big picture.

You only perceive things as defence because you are accusing, I don't see it as a defence but as reason and a different point of view, I care little one way or the other, I just like pinning the tail on haters in general, its just that Floyd attracts the most and most of it is total BS, its all about perspectives and bias.

[Offensive Wizardry]

Floyd doesn't even eat candy lol his discipline is well known. He's earned every penny.

you mean his opponents with big fan bases who floyd leeched off deserve every penny.

[Offensive Wizardry]

I thought you were taking a census what does it matter where Im from, you talk a lot about bias like you don't have any that's amusing in the big picture.

we are in a boxing website. im not a census taker. i only mentioned america because i thought you were american and there's a lot of hate in america hence why people who live in america can seem hateful. every human being has a bias. its human nature. like racism. nobody can deny they are not biased and i have certainly never said i didnt have biases.

you're more than welcome to show proof of me acting like "i dont have any biases" that would amuse the big picture of things.

You only perceive things as defence because you are accusing, I don't see it as a defence but as reason and a different point of view, I care little one way or the other, I just like pinning the tail on haters in general, its just that Floyd attracts the most and most of it is total BS, its all about perspectives and bias.

i didnt accuse.

i told the truth.

i told the truth about floyd. i didnt accuse him of anything. what i said happened. floyd did it. his daughter did it. you can muddy the waters all you want and characterize your defense of floyd's honor online as "pinning the tail on haters" but you aint fooling me old man. and can you prove a single thing i said about floyd here that is bs?

go ahead. i dare you.

I DOUBLE DARE YOU.

[alexnation]

Floyd doesn't even eat candy lol his discipline is well known. He's earned every penny.

Nobody questions that - he deserved everything he earned. The problem is are we going to see 1 big fight a year because of that? Spence-Crawford should have happened long time ago. Tank is going to follow his master and protect the 0 forever.

[djtmal]

He set the tone for modern boxing where fighters are afraid to lose their 0 in the loss column so they cherry pick their way up the ranking fighting familiar names on their way up or down. Or hype up their opponents as better than they truly are. Wait out older fighters until they lose a step.

Spot on.

Dude was clearly overpaid for fighting c fighters like Marcos Madonna and Andre Berto.

Now d fighters are talking about waiting until the fight is at its peak.

Horrific.