Comments Thread For: Ryan Garcia: I'll Feel Much Stronger At 140; I'm Gonna Go Up & Fight The Top Fighters

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  • 4truth
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    #31
    Originally posted by Roadblock

    What ring weight was he here, and what ring weight will he be at 140, I think you would be surprised how close the two weights are.

    9 hrs was plenty after already gaining over 9 lbs, if he was so drained tell me how he was able to throw Davis around the ring, tell me was Ryan fast, did he have snap, the answer is yes to both, now tell me the things in the fight that point to Ryan being weak and drained, I know he got stopped by maybe the most devasting puncher in boxing.

    He had a CW and lost so he must be drained, but nobody can point where he looks like a weak drained fighter, his speed was there, his snap was there, he physically manhandled Davis pretty much when ever he wanted to so what happened, he got hit hard, that's what happened, that's when he became weak, go look at known drained guys Oscar Lalonde Dawson, they have no physicality, they are not snapping punches they are pushing them, they fade round after round, they look unsteady even staggering, where is any of this with Ryan last night, show me.
    Why oh why do these ****** people even demand catchweights and hydration clauses? I guess they don't see what you see.

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    • ELPacman
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      #32
      Ryan vs Rolly @140, let's make it happen. Easy fight to sellout. Both coming off KO losses to Tank, but with a lot power and Rolly will sell the fight easy.

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      • Roadblock
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        #33
        Originally posted by 4truth

        Why oh why do these ****** people even demand catchweights and hydration clauses? I guess they don't see what you see.
        Just answer the question, show me where Ryan was drained during the fight.

        They want the advantage that's why but it doesn't mean they get it and lot of it is the mind games involved, that's the bit you fail to see, not all CWS are the same, Cotto Canelo Oscar Lalonde, all had different levels of a perceived draining, draining is on a scale its not a switch, you seem to think its all the same.

        And they see exactly what I see after the fact, that's because before the event nobody knows for sure the effect you only have signs.
        Last edited by Roadblock; 04-24-2023, 02:24 PM.

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        • Corelone
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          #34
          One punch can change the universe. Campbell didn't soften Ryan up, he tenderized him. When you realize you can be too hurt too, a body shot was enough. He didn't want his head broke.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Do you expect Ryan to seek a fight with Regis Prograis @ 140? Prograis is another short stocky hard punching Southpaw.
            I don’t see why not.

            After a fight or two to work on his game there’s no reason why he can’t be right back in the hunt for a title shot.

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            • Bronx2245
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              #36
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              I don’t see why not.

              After a fight or two to work on his game there’s no reason why he can’t be right back in the hunt for a title shot.
              No, I'm talking about next! He wants the "Top Guys," I'm thinking Richardson Hitchins!

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              • PRINCEKOOL
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                #37
                Originally posted by megas30
                Well, he had nine hours to hydrate to the weight he wanted. This kills that weight-drained nonsense. Ryan need to stop with the excuse now and take the loss like a man.
                I think you should dry and weight drain yourself by about 20 pounds, then attempt to regain that weight within 10 hours 'To then perform some sort of intense physical activity'.

                You will find out that your performance will be negatively effected.

                But I do agree with you, that? Garcia signed the contract and understood the requirements of this match up.

                From my understanding both fighters had to deal with these mandates, but Davis due to not being as big at the weight 'Tactically was going to make the weight easier'.

                Myself personally I think he lower weight divisions are ruined by fighters weight draining themselves. The competition is not as pure as the higher weight divisions, the issue and toxic modern day culture of weight draining 'Is at a all-time high'.

                I have been a proponent for boxing to alter the weigh in rules further or to bring back the 'Same day weigh in rules'. Which would help tackle this issue and deter fighters from weight draining themselves etc.

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                • daggum
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Roadblock

                  Just answer the question, show me where Ryan was drained during the fight.

                  They want the advantage that's why but it doesn't mean they get it and lot of it is the mind games involved, that's the bit you fail to see, not all CWS are the same, Cotto Canelo Oscar Lalonde, all had different levels of a perceived draining, draining is on a scale its not a switch, you seem to think its all the same.

                  And they see exactly what I see after the fact, that's because before the event nobody knows for sure the effect you only have signs.
                  he had no energy or no ability to recover cause his reserves were gone. he also collapsed from a body shot. did you think he would have a health bar above his head like a video game that said drained? just use your brain. i know it might be hard but why do you think tank did it? why do you think floyd drained canelo. it works.

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                  • The Problem Child
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                    #39
                    Feel bad for the kid. He did what we always ask of from top fighters, cut the BS and just get the big fights done. Sadly it didnt work in his favor but huge respect.

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                      #40
                      I do believe that Davis will not go near to a 140lbs garcia.

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