Comments Thread For: Hearn Eyeing Joshua-Whyte Rematch In July, Fury or Wilder Fight in December in Middle East

[thack]

If Joshua fights Whyte, then his last two fights are pretty much at the same level of Fury's last two fights 'They are the raw facts of his current situation'.

Franklin on current form is a better fighter than Chisora, and even while training part time? He was able to push Whyte

I personally think in retrospect, this is a good run of fights for Joshua 'Whyte vs Joshua II, is a by far more competitively relevant fight than Chisora vs Fury III'.

Chisora going into the Fury fight was essentially semi-retired, and had achieved his only win in years vs another semi-retired fighter Pulev.

I still see hardcore Fury fans attempting to use Joshua to fight off Fury's nearest competition i.e Demanding that Joshua should fight Zhang.

Tyson Fury is the WBC Heavyweight Champion, he is the man and fighter who should be fighting Zhang.

Who's Tyson Fury fighting next? It seems like he will be most likely be aiming to fight Ruiz Junior, who is a solid fighter 'But Ruiz Junior was beaten 12-0 by Anthony Joshua in their rematch many years ago'.

I honestly think Fury's hardcore fans need to pipe down with the criticism of any other fighter 'Tyson Fury is the WBC Heavyweight Champion, and his last two fights have barely been at World level' etc.

If Fury fights Ruiz and Ruiz turns up in that obese condition as he did in fight 2 then Fury will stop him , if he turns up in the condition he did on two weeks notice when he anihailated Joshua then he will still beat him. Fury's last two fights 'have barely been at world level' , I agree both Chisora and Whyte are not world level BUT Fury did win every round! Tell me who apart from old Klitchko ,who had just been beaten two years prior by Fury, who has Joshua beaten that are 'world level' ? Not a long drawn out excuse please just one name will do? Otherwise 'pipe down'. !

[MONGOOSE66]

Who cares about this fight. NEITHER can whip Fury.

[PRINCEKOOL]

If Fury fights Ruiz and Ruiz turns up in that obese condition as he did in fight 2 then Fury will stop him , if he turns up in the condition he did on two weeks notice when he anihailated Joshua then he will still beat him. Fury's last two fights 'have barely been at world level' , I agree both Chisora and Whyte are not world level BUT Fury did win every round! Tell me who apart from old Klitchko ,who had just been beaten two years prior by Fury, has Joshua beaten that are 'world level' ? Not a long drawn out excuse please just one name will do?

Ruiz Junior was in his normal condition for both of his fights vs Joshua. The fact of the matter is, he had a full training camp for the rematch with Joshua 'And was beaten 12-0 easy, that is factual history'.

For years YOU and every other hardcore Fury fan has mocked Ruiz Junior 'But now all of a sudden the tune seems to be altering'.

You are under pressure, upset and a bit all over the place 'This is the current state of most hardcore Fury fans, who have got a conscience right now and it is completely understandable'.

'Tyson Fury's last two fights have barely been at world level, and he has just backed out and sabotaged a fight with Usyk'.

And before that, Fury was trying to run a opportunistic game on Joshua 'Everyone knows that Tyson Fury was trying to take advantage of Joshua's then perceived vulnerability in the aftermath of Joshua vs Usyk II' by suddenly offering him a fight at short noticed and pressuring him to make that fight.

That is where we are at with Tyson Fury's reign, and that is what you are dealing with as a hardcore Tyson Fury fan.

Like I stated up above, I have not really got much more to say on this subject 'What I stated up above to Bob, also applies to you and every other hardcore Fury fan'.

At the end of the day, it is up to yourself what kind of behaviors you want to align with and endorse as a man.

[MoneyKing]

Tyson Fury is worlds apart, who shouldn't give those 2 losers Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua any paydays, let them go at it alone with out using your name.

At least Fury won't be fighting a roofer in Franklin lol.

[thack]

Ruiz Junior was in his normal condition for both of his fights vs Joshua. The fact of the matter is, he had a full training camp for the rematch with Joshua 'And was beaten 12-0 easy, that is factual history'.

For years YOU and every other hardcore Fury fan has mocked Ruiz Junior 'But now all of a sudden the tune seems to be altering'.

You are under pressure, upset and a bit all over the place 'This is the current state of most hardcore Fury fans, who have got a conscience right now and it is completely understandable'.

'Tyson Fury's last two fights have barely been at world level, and he has just backed out and sabotaged a fight with Usyk'.

And before that, Fury was trying to run a opportunistic game on Joshua 'Everyone knows that Tyson Fury was trying to take advantage of Joshua's then perceived vulnerability in the aftermath of Joshua vs Usyk II' by suddenly offering him a fight at short noticed and pressuring him to make that fight.

That is where we are at with Tyson Fury's reign, and that is what you are dealing with as a hardcore Tyson Fury fan.

Like I stated up above, I have not really got much more to say on this subject 'What I stated up above to Bob, also applies to you and every other hardcore Fury fan'.

At the end of the day, it is up to yourself what kind of behaviors you want to align with and endorse as a man.

I asked you politely not to spill your normal long winded bollocks and name just ONE fighter , who Joshua has beaten at top world level and not old shot Wlad ...Im still waiting ! ??????

[Willow The Wisp]

Mate, you was a hardcore Fury fan and now you have piped down 'And you have distance yourself towards Fury, that is your situation'.

I am not saying all hardcore Fury fans should desert Fury, because he is not a bad guy 'But what I am saying is? I personally definitely would not be aligning myself or endorsing, the behavior of Tyson Fury as a Champion of late'.

As a boxing fan, you have recognized that at-least in this period of Fury's career? In order to be a hardcore Fury fan, you would have to continually betray yourself pretty much on a weekly basis 'And ether lie to yourself or make things up in order to endorse and agree with Fury's games'.

You have recognized that this type of behavior was damaging your own self respect and principles. Yes this is boxing and it is just a sport, but people best check themselves on who they align with 'And what type of characters, because whether you aware of it or not, that can and will reflect upon you as man'.

Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but I don't rate him as a Champion. And it is a fact that as a Champion he has attempted to run opportunistic moves vs his nearest competition 'Both Usyk & Joshua'.

Everyone knows that in the aftermath of Joshua vs Usyk II, Fury was tactically and opportunistically trying to take advantage of Joshua's perceived then vulnerability 'And on top of that he offered him a fight on short notice'.

I don't respect that specific conduct or behavior, and if you or anyone has a issue with that 'Then that is their problem'. Whether it be in boxing or life opportunistic people don't deserve a level of respect.

And I am not claiming that Fury as a fighter or a man is universally opportunistic 'Because Fury is not'. But as a Champion that is the game he has been running.

I am not a glory hunter mate, I know what Anthony Joshua is and what level he currently right now is fighting at 'Joshua is a Olympic Champion, former two time World Heavyweight Champion and now he is a contender' They are the pure objective facts.

So you can say what you want, and make stories up and try and recreate boxing history 'If that makes your situation more comfortable, then go for it mate'.

I believe I have stated all that I needed to state on this subject.

I read every word, and I believe that I understand your contention. Certainly there is something to be desired in the frequency of Fury's title defenses, and with that of many other title holders. We, the fans simply seek clarity regarding who the top gun is within each weight class, and we are too often left hanging. "Rating him a champion" or not, Fury remains the man who beat the man, and in fighting and acquitting himself very well against Klitschko, Wilder and Whyte in 5 championship contests against top 5 gentlemen, his championship body of work is a match for any active heavyweight I suppose. The bottom line remains what it's been for a growing number of years; that Fury, Wilder and Joshua must complete their round robin for their shared era, with Ruiz, Usyk and now Zhang joining in as supporting cast members. Between this group there are hundreds of millions to be made. Make your management teams produce the desired results!!

[Roberto Vasquez]

AJ should fight Wilder. Fury is too scared to fight anyone it seems and no one wants to see Whyte.

Wilder needs to fight a top guy next - so does AJ. Let's get it on!

I do think AJ should fight in July - December is too far away. Pick a top 15 guy who will be easiest for him. Then we got the Wilder fight to look forward to.

Maybe Wallin should be the pick - AJ already beat him twice. Shouldn't be as hard as Fury made it look.

[JakeTheBoxer]

I don`t care who Joshua fights, to be honest. he is not world titlist, he can fight whoever he wants to.

The sad part for Fury is, if Joshua fights Whyte next, he is fighting actually the same level opposition as Fury, who beat Whyte and Chisora in his last 2 fights.

[greeneye99]

Tyson Fury is worlds apart, who shouldn't give those 2 losers Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua any paydays, let them go at it alone with out using your name.

At least Fury won't be fighting a roofer in Franklin lol.

So Fury shouldn't give 2 losers Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua any paydays
But Tyson Fury can fight the losers Derek Chisora Dillian Whyte and now Andy Garcia jr?
Wow make it make sense
Lol

[PRINCEKOOL]

I read every word, and I believe that I understand your contention. Certainly there is something to be desired in the frequency of Fury's title defenses, and with that of many other title holders. We, the fans simply seek clarity regarding who the top gun is within each weight class, and we are too often left hanging. "Rating him a champion" or not, Fury remains the man who beat the man, and in fighting and acquitting himself very well against Klitschko, Wilder and Whyte in 5 championship contests against top 5 gentlemen, his championship body of work is a match for any active heavyweight I suppose. The bottom line remains what it's been for a growing number of years; that Fury, Wilder and Joshua must complete their round robin for their shared era, with Ruiz, Usyk and now Zhang joining in as supporting cast members. Between this group there are hundreds of millions to be made. Make your management teams produce the desired results!!

The Kiltschko win was 7-8 years ago 'Fury has not been Champion for 7-8 years mate, he lost his titles when he unfortunately did not rematch Kiltschko'. Wilder and Whyte are the only world level fighters Fury has fought since then, but in reality Whyte was barely World level.

People complained about the Kiltschko era, but in terms of Champions acting like Champions? The Kiltschko reign was a by far more superior reign 'Wladimir Kiltschko as a Champion took on all comers regardless of what the public perception was of those fighters'.

It seemingly does not really matter what a fighters ranking or achievements are to Tyson Fury. Team Fury seem to have a unknown rating system, which gauges the worthiness of his opponents 'And currently right now, judging from what I have seen in interviews? Nobody meets the worthiness standard to fight Tyson Fury'.

Of course Tyson Fury for me, I still personally rank him as the number 1 Heavyweight on merit 'Because he still has the two best wins, out of all active Heavyweights'.

But as a Champion, I think Tyson Fury is held to a extremely low standard. Out of all WBC Champions in all weight divisions of the past 20 years 'Fury is definitely in the top-3, most Lowery regarded Champions, in terms of the standard his fans and even certain sections of the media hold him to'.

It is now April 25th, apparently we are 4 days out from Fury's apparent April 29th fight date.

Who is Tyson Fury fighting next? Does anyone have any ideas?

I have not made up anything in this post, everything I have stated 'Has historically taken place'. We are not asking for too much of Tyson Fury.

I have always been adamant that Tyson Fury does not like being a Champion, he does not enjoy or like the requirements which come with being a Champion etc.