Mayweather - Untried, Unproven, and Untested at Welterweight!

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  • joe_black
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    You do know that Al Haymon manages (or advises) Williams career right?
    Originally posted by cottosucks84
    For the last time floyd did what he had to at ww. Hecame in 11/2005 had fought a tough veteran in shambra mitchell. After that he fought zab judah the former lineal champ than baldomir the linealchamp at the time. In the end of 2005 the top 5 welters were spinks judah margarito and floyd . Shane was at 154 and cotto wasn't even rated
    No he didn't. Well, at least that's what he's trying to make you guys think. Those weren't the fights the fans wanted. As always, he goes for the easy ones...

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    • Dice
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      That is false, Baldomir was a legit welter, and so is Zab. Hatton also won a belt at welter. So he has fought a few 147 pounders, so therefore he is not untried, unproven and untested.

      So what you are saying is basically bad fanfiction.

      If you look at Floyd resume (or big picture) as a whole you will see that he started at and dominated the 130 pound division. Since then he has been jumping up weight classes beating good fighters, so to judge his whole career by 147 is rash and foolish at best.
      That was perfectly said

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        That is false, Baldomir was a legit welter, and so is Zab. Hatton also won a belt at welter. So he has fought a few 147 pounders, so therefore he is not untried, unproven and untested.

        So what you are saying is basically bad fanfiction.

        If you look at Floyd resume (or big picture) as a whole you will see that he started at and dominated the 130 pound division. Since then he has been jumping up weight classes beating good fighters, so to judge his whole career by 147 is rash and foolish at best.

        But Baldomir was slow and PBF knew he was as made for him as he could have been. As for Zab, he gave PBF many problems and PBF knows it. But Zab isnt that great, and Baldomir wont look as good on your resume as a Cotto or SSM or Marge if your truthful.
        Hatton did win a belt at welter. But dont you think PBF saw that Luis Collazo nearly knocked hatton out at 147. So if Collazo nearly did the job, PBF doing it is not that great. Dont you think PBF looks at details like this?

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          #24
          Originally posted by joe_black
          http://sportales.com/wrestling/maywe...-welterweight/

          Bwa ha ha ha ha ha! Very very very true!

          I guess his last 5 fights havent been @ 147? Mayweather has been retired for 2 years and people say he is ducking Cotto? Mosley? (who just came back down to ww while Mayweather was retired) Margarito? Uh yeah ....P Will? They will never fight cause of Al Haymon...

          Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, DLH & Hatton @ WW or above

          When Mayweather fought Judah @ WW..Cotto was still @ 140 fighting Malignaggi..

          When he fought Baldomir (who the **** was Margarito @ the time?...Just a name built up by Bob Arum...he beat nobody and didnt earn his title shot...He is just a mythical scary force that somehow got people to believe he could beat Mayweather...lol

          Then he fought Oscar ABOVE WW....fought a very tough Undefeated Hatton @ WW....

          Just because he hasnt YET fought the fighters he soon will fight doesnt mean he hasnt been tested @ "WW"

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          • Jiddu Dali
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            #25
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            But Baldomir was slow and PBF knew he was as made for him as he could have been. As for Zab, he gave PBF many problems and PBF knows it. But Zab isnt that great, and Baldomir wont look as good on your resume as a Cotto or SSM or Marge if your truthful.
            Hatton did win a belt at welter. But dont you think PBF saw that Luis Collazo nearly knocked hatton out at 147. So if Collazo nearly did the job, PBF doing it is not that great. Dont you think PBF looks at details like this?
            Wait...so are you saying if Baldomir didnt have the WW title Mayweather would have still fought him?

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              #26
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              But Baldomir was slow and PBF knew he was as made for him as he could have been. As for Zab, he gave PBF many problems and PBF knows it. But Zab isnt that great, and Baldomir wont look as good on your resume as a Cotto or SSM or Marge if your truthful.
              Hatton did win a belt at welter. But dont you think PBF saw that Luis Collazo nearly knocked hatton out at 147. So if Collazo nearly did the job, PBF doing it is not that great. Dont you think PBF looks at details like this?

              once again my friend...

              Whether Collazo nearly knocked Hatton out or not it was still a lucritive fight for the two of them. 2 Undefeated Champions both in the top 5 P4P @ the time. Mayweather didnt need to see Collazo outbox Hatton for him to know that he could beat Hatton.

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              • joe_black
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                #27
                PBF is untried unproven and untested at ww simply because he hasn't fought anybody who poses a challenge.

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                • The_Demon
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                  #28
                  floyd has fought one guy smaller than him.that was after a 2 year lay-off
                  true story

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Mayweather has to fight Cotto, Mosley, or Pac next, or he will continue to be questioned at welterweight which he should. Mayweather being ranked above Cotto is absolutely disgraceful, Cotto has done more at welterweight than Floyd could even pretend to.
                    figthing Pac and NOT fighting Cotto and Mosley will also question his WW credentials.

                    Pac isn't a natural WW

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                    • shade darkar
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                      #30
                      all iv gotta say in regards to this is look at the top ten ranked welterweights in the world. you will see that they all have something in common, none of them has fought mayweather.

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