Ok NSB: After the Presser, does Ryan do better than Rolly, or nah?

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  • Regge
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    #11
    Originally posted by ELPacman
    Did Rolly have 1031928019823 stipulations before their fight? I think that answers your question.
    End thread right there.

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    • Roadblock
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      #12
      Originally posted by 4truth
      Ryan is a level or two above Rolly but he is not physically fit for this fight. Ryan is going to be knocked out in spectacular fashion.
      You have nothing to back that up, and your notion has been beaten down and KOed all week long but here you are a little voice way down the back crying.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Roadblock

        You have nothing to back that up, and your notion has been beaten down and KOed all week long but here you are a little voice way down the back crying.
        You are about the least objective person on the forum. I know you don't see it but your high opinion of your own opinion is unwarranted. You are the Rolly of posters but far less entertaining.

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        • Roadblock
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          #14
          Originally posted by ELPacman
          Did Rolly have 1031928019823 stipulations before their fight? I think that answers your question.
          Why did Manny have the same stipulations on a range of different fighters having different stipulations, does Davis have the same reasons as Manny had, was Manny scared, is Tank scared? was the Cotto Manny fought better or worse than the version Floyd fought minus stipulations of any kind.

          Like wtf are you trying to make out I just don't get it.

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          • dan_cov
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            #15
            Ryan will do better.

            Rolly only had the success he did because Tank basically let him. He let him get comfortable, lulled him too sleep knowing he was a ''dumbass fighter'' as he liked to put it.

            Ryan is a bit more savvy, compact and controls range better he will do better than Rolly, he could do an awful lot better especially if Tank comes in with a similar strategy. One day that pathetic activity level and looking for the big highlight reel K.O shot is going to come back to haunt him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              Did Rolly have 1031928019823 stipulations before their fight? I think that answers your question.
              Sounds like excuses.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                Who cares what he said, they say lots of BS in the lead ups, by saying that it's a put-down, that's what they do they try and make out the other guy got nothing, its just egos and young men that are pro-fighters, I don't take in any of the small back and forward stuff, Im the type that sits with a stopwatch and looks at form.
                You've seen Ryan fight.

                Campbell put him down because his chin was in the air, unprotected.

                Ryan himself admitted that he just needed a hook.

                Nothing Tank said was wrong.

                It's Fury (Tank) vs. Wilder (Ryan), unless Goosen has taught this kid how to defend himself.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Ryan will do better.

                  Rolly only had the success he did because Tank basically let him. He let him get comfortable, lulled him too sleep knowing he was a ''dumbass fighter'' as he liked to put it.

                  Ryan is a bit more savvy, compact and controls range better he will do better than Rolly, he could do an awful lot better especially if Tank comes in with a similar strategy. One day that pathetic activity level and looking for the big highlight reel K.O shot is going to come back to haunt him.
                  That haunting comes tomorrow by the name of Ryan. The one shot we all know Tank needs to land to win the fight,because he isn't going to outbox Ryan,never comes. Ryan is too skilled,gifted and will be too focused tomorrow to allow that to happen.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Roadblock

                    Why did Manny have the same stipulations on a range of different fighters having different stipulations, does Davis have the same reasons as Manny had, was Manny scared, is Tank scared? was the Cotto Manny fought better or worse than the version Floyd fought minus stipulations of any kind.

                    Like wtf are you trying to make out I just don't get it.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by dibzvincent143

                      I agree that Rolly didn’t really give tank much trouble after watching it multiple times i don’t know what other fans are saying. He was a pace slower and a step behind, tank was just taking his time and not being ******. Rolly was too slow to be able to time tank, had it continued tank would have done more damage imo.

                      I think garcia obviously presents a different type of challenge because of his speed and other physical advantages. It is possible he can start fast and maybe blitz or overwhelm tank. But tank has shown he can handle power alot more than garcia could. Has shown he can be patient and pick his spots and go for the kill later. Garcia needs to tighten his defense, use more movements and not lose focus if this goes into a long fight.

                      i’m rooting for garcia to win this but I think him being hurt by tank has a higher probability than vice versa.
                      Yeah I think most people who felt Rolly was giving Tank trouble didn’t really know what they were watching tbh. At no point in that fight did I feel like Rolly was ever going to win.

                      The biggest concern for Garcia is he hangs that chin out. He’s gonna have to land something big early I think, the longer it goes the more I favour Tank to time him with the left hand and close the show. Tank mid rounds is my prediction.

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