Comments Thread For: Hrgovic to Zhang: Let's Do a Rematch in Beijing; I'll Knock Him Out In Front of One Billion Chinese People

[AKAcronym]

Hrgovic is to smart for Zhang and won’t fall into the same easy traps Joyce did . I’d actually favor both again in rematches but it depends who Joyce includes as his head trainer . Hrgovic has an uncanny way of really keeping gages on opponents, he’s a bit cumbersome in there but that’s his fighting style he just knows how just out Angle you and out land he reminds me a lot of Vitali Klitchko and no doubt he’d put more effort in the rematch.

Joyce would be close to 38 years old, if not already 38, by the time the rematch happens. There's not enough time left for him to learn anything that would stick long enough. He'll just revert back to old ways as soon as the fight gets difficult.

[LAchargers373]

Hrgovic seems to not understand boxing lol. He feels he won because he threw 700 and missed over 500 of them. Zheng threw 300 and landed more than half of them landed the much harder punches produced a KD and literally had hrgovic turning his back running smh. Zheng beat him clearly

[juggernaut666]

Joyce would be close to 38 years old, if not already 38, by the time the rematch happens. There's not enough time left for him to learn anything that would stick long enough. He'll just revert back to old ways as soon as the fight gets difficult.

He doesn’t have to learn anything that would stick he’d only have to learn what he needs to do for one fight . It’s not like he needs to learn how to triple jab and then switch into an uppercut on the right side after it and shoulder roll like James Toney and then pivot his way like Mike Tyson with some peekaboo style etc etc…lol


Joyce is a very capable boxer anyone who writes him off doesn’t watch enough boxing . If I had a dollar for every post I read of what Joshua can do differently to defeat Ruiz I’d have a few bucks on here , Zhang is a big hurdle for Joyce but he’s not unbeatable.

[juggernaut666]

Hrgovic seems to not understand boxing lol. He feels he won because he threw 700 and missed over 500 of them. Zheng threw 300 and landed more than half of them landed the much harder punches produced a KD and literally had hrgovic turning his back running smh. Zheng beat him clearly

Hrgovic landed more power punches and got the only legit knockdown they missed in that fight . You don’t win fights getting hit much more and just because you had a better percentage of less shots thrown so maybe you don’t actually understand boxing ? Lol

[MeiXiang]

Ah, the Carl Froch of the Heavyweight Division. Although the reality is - is that he'll end up saying how many people he'll get knocked out in front of in the future.

[AKAcronym]

He doesn’t have to learn anything that would stick he’d only have to learn what he needs to do for one fight . It’s not like he needs to learn how to triple jab and then switch into an uppercut on the right side after it and shoulder roll like James Toney and then pivot his way like Mike Tyson with some peekaboo style etc etc…lol


Joyce is a very capable boxer anyone who writes him off doesn’t watch enough boxing . If I had a dollar for every post I read of what Joshua can do differently to defeat Ruiz I’d have a few bucks on here , Zhang is a big hurdle for Joyce but he’s not unbeatable.

It's not learning things that stick for more than one fight, it's learning it well enough to implement in the fight and stick with it. We've seen time and time again, fighters supposedly working on this, that and the other during camp, but when it comes to the actual fight and things aren't going according to plan, they go back to old ways because they've been doing it for so long. There's not that much time to learn things that become second nature in the ring. You can usually tell when a fighter is having to think of what they need to do, instead of reacting instinctively and that's what I would think would happen to Joe.

[thack]

The majority of people thought Zhang was hard done by in the Hrgovic fight , with Hrgovic hitting the deck and seemingly looking for a way out , turning away on more than one occasion , some ref's would have waved it over as it is a sign of surrender but he fought on and got the decision as we know. I think Zhang may find himself more in the mix now after that emphatic win over a fighter that few wanted to fight.He's sitting pretty and has made himself tremendously marketable for a big name fight maybe at home where he will have millions of fans in support and a big money rematch in the pipeline too. Good luck to Zhang , he fought a guy that was offered to some and refused at all costs, he deserves his glory.I knew he'd ask some questions but I didn't think he'd answer so many!

[Liondw]

That could be a good fight, and make money, but Fury vs Zhang in China, obviously much bigger.

I think that if Fury would fight Zhang, it would be in England. An Usyk-Zhang fight is not as appealing, even though Zhilei is the mandatory and the interim WBO champion.

[juggernaut666]

It's not learning things that stick for more than one fight, it's learning it well enough to implement in the fight and stick with it. We've seen time and time again, fighters supposedly working on this, that and the other during camp, but when it comes to the actual fight and things aren't going according to plan, they go back to old ways because they've been doing it for so long. There's not that much time to learn things that become second nature in the ring. You can usually tell when a fighter is having to think of what they need to do, instead of reacting instinctively and that's what I would think would happen to Joe.

Joyce is a better fighter then Zhang ,better in every shot selection and puts them together better to when in rhythm . Zhang won on the fact Joyce made the fight easier for Zhang and wasn’t going to look good wheather he won or lost trying to time his jab to get in and out because Zhangs speed was the difference not overall skill .

Joyce should win with a more sound trainer in a competent camp ,like I said it’s not hard to stick to something simple Joyce doesn’t have to be some slick boxer all he has to do is not fence with Zhangs lead hand and even a medium trainer can tell him that in between rounds and not have your hands down when you retreat because that’s what basically cost him both sides when he was coming in and going out getting hit flush very hard ,thats pretty simple stuff and if that’s corrected you have an entirely different fight and possible outcome .

[AKAcronym]

Joyce is a better fighter then Zhang ,better in every shot selection and puts them together better to when in rhythm . Zhang won on the fact Joyce made the fight easier for Zhang and wasn’t going to look good wheather he won or lost trying to time his jab to get in and out because Zhangs speed was the difference not overall skill .

Joyce should win with a more sound trainer in a competent camp ,like I said it’s not hard to stick to something simple Joyce doesn’t have to be some slick boxer all he has to do is not fence with Zhangs lead hand and even a medium trainer can tell him that in between rounds and not dose with your hands down ,thats pretty simple stuff and if that’s corrected you have an entirely different fight and possible outcome .

Amazing that something so simple, Joyce wasn't able to do at all. Guess we'll see what happens in the rematch, if it actually happens.