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  • Zelda
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    #11
    Multiple reasons...turned pro too late, doesn't have a great promotion, doesn't help that his own country is not a boxing enthusiast, and he hasn't fought any top guy or be in meaningful fights. Having said that, I do think he won this fight because of Joyce's fault and not because of his great skills. I do think Chisora beats or gives a tough time to Zhang, Dubois beats him, Ortiz beats him, Whyte beats him, and Parker beats him.

    Joyce did not look himself in that fight. Either something was wrong or he simply took the fight too lightly. I just rewatched Joyce vs Dubois and Joyce vs Zhang. He fought a much better fight against Dubois and if he can work on his strategy, I think he beats Zhang in the rematch. He thought he is too powerful for Zhang and have a great chin to take his shots. If he can instead avoid walking straight into Zhang's punches and just stay outside for the first few rounds, Joyce has a better engine and better chin. He can up the ante in the later rounds by which time Zhang would be gassed out. I think Joyce simply didn't bother with a strategic plan because he thought he would roll over Zhang.

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    • Plick647
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      #12
      head movement is key
      "thats what SHE said!"
      no head movement, easy target, no victory!

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      • letsgochump
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        #13
        Originally posted by Zelda
        Multiple reasons...turned pro too late, doesn't have a great promotion, doesn't help that his own country is not a boxing enthusiast, and he hasn't fought any top guy or be in meaningful fights. Having said that, I do think he won this fight because of Joyce's fault and not because of his great skills. I do think Chisora beats or gives a tough time to Zhang, Dubois beats him, Ortiz beats him, Whyte beats him, and Parker beats him.

        Joyce did not look himself in that fight. Either something was wrong or he simply took the fight too lightly. I just rewatched Joyce vs Dubois and Joyce vs Zhang. He fought a much better fight against Dubois and if he can work on his strategy, I think he beats Zhang in the rematch. He thought he is too powerful for Zhang and have a great chin to take his shots. If he can instead avoid walking straight into Zhang's punches and just stay outside for the first few rounds, Joyce has a better engine and better chin. He can up the ante in the later rounds by which time Zhang would be gassed out. I think Joyce simply didn't bother with a strategic plan because he thought he would roll over Zhang.
        Fully agree. Joyce needs to keep a tight guard coming in so the left of Zhang will land on his gloves and he can do his thing on the inside. He will then be able to pressure Zhang into exhaustion and win by stoppage.

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        • JakeTheBoxer
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          #14
          Zhang is N.4. by the Ring. Welcome back in top 10 champ!

          Who will dare to fight Zhang the imperator?

          They all were running their mouth how they beat Joyce.

          Time to prove they beat the man who beat Joyce than.

          I say Zhang beats Fury and Usyk.

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          • RyuVsKen
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            #15
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            Zhang is N.4. by the Ring. Welcome back in top 10 champ!

            Who will dare to fight Zhang the imperator?

            They all were running their mouth how they beat Joyce.

            Time to prove they beat the man who beat Joyce than.

            I say Zhang beats Fury and Usyk.
            Zhang had a great night vs Joyce but had his fair share of trouble with Hrgovic. While he did well, let's not get carried away here. I think Fury (whom I dislike) owns him and Usyk outsmarts and outmaneuvers him.

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            • HeadShots
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              #16
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              Zhang is N.4. by the Ring. Welcome back in top 10 champ!

              Who will dare to fight Zhang the imperator?

              They all were running their mouth how they beat Joyce.

              Time to prove they beat the man who beat Joyce than.

              I say Zhang beats Fury and Usyk.



              honestly i just want one of those 4 ****less phaggets give some other legit contenders a fight instead of freezing everyone out.



              Zhang would be a massive underdog in the books. I'll be looking to make some money again.

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              • HeadShots
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                #17
                Originally posted by RyuVsKen

                Zhang had a great night vs Joyce but had his fair share of trouble with Hrgovic. While he did well, let's not get carried away here. I think Fury (whom I dislike) owns him and Usyk outsmarts and outmaneuvers him.

                Hrgovic would beat Usyk, Joshua and Wilder tomorrow. 50/50 against Fury right now.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HeadShots




                  honestly i just want one of those 4 ****less phaggets give some other legit contenders a fight instead of freezing everyone out.



                  Zhang would be a massive underdog in the books. I'll be looking to make some money again.
                  This goes for Usyk and Fury at first, they are belt holders.

                  Yes, I want them to stop pretending the are negotiating something and start fighting contenders.

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                  • JakeTheBoxer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RyuVsKen

                    Zhang had a great night vs Joyce but had his fair share of trouble with Hrgovic. While he did well, let's not get carried away here. I think Fury (whom I dislike) owns him and Usyk outsmarts and outmaneuvers him.
                    Ok, so lets hope they get some balls and fight him.

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