Do you think Cotto has a better resume than Trinidad?

[Kevin Jesus]

Kevin,

what is it you especially don't like about Cotto as a boxer, out of interest?

I can understand not being his biggest fan, but it's hard to see what's to really dislike either.
Just me, but, from being kind of semi-indifferent at one point, my admiration for both the man and his style has really grown over the last 2 and a half years or so.

As a boxer, Cotto has wack fans. they get on my nerves, and it makes me downplay him as a boxer.

Btw, note i said as a boxer not a person. Cotto seems like a cool guy to hang around with, he's laid back like me. I can get along with him as a person. But as a boxer i dislike him cause his fans are too ignorant and racist. I would like to say only some fans, but it's hard to say this when you have about 3-4 good Cotto fans vs 500 dumb one's.

Trinidad fans>Cotto fans

[eazy_mas]

Tito would beat everyone on Miguels resume, with the only question mark being Mosley. Cotto would lose to a numbe rof people of Titos resume.

If Veron Forest knockdown Mosely I think Tito could finish him or discourage him the same way.

Tito was a big WW to begin with

[-MAKAVELLI-]

As a boxer, Cotto has wack fans. they get on my nerves, and it makes me downplay him as a boxer.

Btw, note i said as a boxer not a person. Cotto seems like a cool guy to hang around with, he's laid back like me. I can get along with him as a person. But as a boxer i dislike him cause his fans are too ignorant and racist. I would like to say only some fans, but it's hard to say this when you have about 3-4 good Cotto fans vs 500 dumb one's.

Trinidad fans>Cotto fans

kev, were you around boxing forums during tito's reign? those fans were just as obnoxious...trust me...there was a reason why i didnt like tito at first

[VipersThunder]

I noticed a poster with a sig of a quote of Burner saying Cotto has a better resume than Trinidad, as if to ridicule him.

Everyone knows i don't like Cotto as a boxer, And i was once a Trinidad fan. But I was thinking maybe Cotto does have a better resume? or maybe not?

Does he?

Tito Trinidad's Notable wins:

Blockerr(idk why but posters regard this as a notable win)
Camacho
Luis Campas
Oba Carr
Pernell Whitaker(Past Prime
Oscar De La Hoya(Supposedly)
David Reid
Fernando Vargas
William Joppy
Ricardo Mayorga

Cotto's Notable wins:

Maussa(Undefeated)
Victoriano Sosa(not a notable win for Floyd but you can give it to Cotto for obvious reasons)
Lovemore N'Dou(undefeated)
Demarcus Corley
Ricardo Torres(undefeated)(real good win)
Paul Malignaggi(undefeated)(another real good win)
Carlos Quintana (Undefeated, Cotto was underdog in this fight so it was more than just a good win)
Zab Judah
Shane Mosley(Arguably a better name than any prime fighter on Tito's resume)
Joshua Clottey


I guess it's arguable. I know the oldies will shut down Cotto and say Tito by a mile, but you have to think with a resume like this at 28 years old and we still don't know if Cotto will beat Pacquiao and then fight Mayweather.

With all favoring the oldies aside(Cause it's a trend in Boxingscene that the fighters from back in the days are better than the one's from now no matter what[for some reason]) I think that Cotto's resume is better than Trinidad's resume as it stands right now. BUT, don't get me wrong, WW Trinidad would crush Cotto.

I know i'm gonna have some of the oldies on my ass for this but It's either even now or Cotto edges Trinidad just a bit.

No way, Trinidad was ****ing everyone out when he was coming up and he didn't lose until he got to middleweight against the best, Cotto struggles at welterweight. Maurice Blocker was a tough ass fighter and Trinidad ko'd him in two rounds. The way boxing is now with the internet we all criticize to much but you don't have to have a pristine cherry picked resume to be a great fighter. Especially when you always fight the toughest possible guys.

[Kevin Jesus]

youre exaggerating with some of Cotto's LWW wins. having wins over Maussa, Sosa, and Ndou doesnt mean too much, regardless of undefeated records.

Blocker was still highly rated at WW when Trinidad murdered him, altouhg Norris did the same thing. you forget his win over Garcia too, who was top ten material at the time.
his wins over Reid and Vargas are the scale tippers for him. both these guys were considered the cream of the crop at 154lbs, although imo Reid wasnt as good as people make him out to be sometimes.
His success at 160lbs is just icing on the cake.

how the hell was Ndou undefeated when he fought Cotto? did I miss something? lol.

Ahh yes, the fillers. Yeah you always wanna add those. Imagine a rap album with only the hit singles. I see ven in boxing resume's those fillers come in handy

[Kevin Jesus]

kev, were you around boxing forums during tito's reign? those fans were just as obnoxious...trust me...there was a reason why i didnt like tito at first

Lol na i wasn't around Boxingscene in Tito's reign. I started in June 2008 as Kev183. But to be honest I woulda been one of those obnoxious Tito fans cause I was high on Tito back then.

[Steak]

Ahh yes, the fillers. Yeah you always wanna add those. Imagine a rap album with only the hit singles. I see ven in boxing resume's those fillers come in handy

sorry, I dont know what the **** youre talking about man.

I dont listen to rap, I like country.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Lol na i wasn't around Boxingscene in Tito's reign. I started in June 2008 as Kev183. But to be honest I woulda been one of those obnoxious Tito fans cause I was high on Tito back then.

i used to post on ESB's public forum and it was a daily war with tito fans...imagine dealing with 50 Animalistic's in one thread? that's what it was like with tito...the borikuas were nuts over tito and i didn't blame them...he was a badass but they were obnoxious....

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

As a boxer, Cotto has wack fans. they get on my nerves, and it makes me downplay him as a boxer.

Btw, note i said as a boxer not a person. Cotto seems like a cool guy to hang around with, he's laid back like me. I can get along with him as a person. But as a boxer i dislike him cause his fans are too ignorant and racist. I would like to say only some fans, but it's hard to say this when you have about 3-4 good Cotto fans vs 500 dumb one's.

Trinidad fans>Cotto fans

Well, I'm a long-standing detractor of the worst Cotto Stans, and have long been a campaigner for parity in terms of the lopsided stigma differential between, sayy, Mayweather or Klitschko Stans and Cotto or Pacquiao Stans.



When you said "as a boxer", I just assumed you were talking stylistically - in that case I was just wondering if there was anything you found aesthetically displeasing about Cotto's style or if you just plain didn't rate it.

Disregard.

[Kevin Jesus]

sorry, I dont know what the **** youre talking about man.

I dont listen to rap, I like country.

Apology accepted

album filler:

When a band releases an album where there's only a couple good songs, and they need more to make a whole album, so they make crappy songs knowing they aren't that great just to complete the CD since you need at least around 8 songs for a good CD.

I used Rap album as an example, they're in any kind of genre.