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  • #41
    There is really nothing extraordinary about AJ's last fight, it was no watershed moment in the continuing saga of AJ... Boxing, like life itself will always have levels to the game... Together social forces, expectations and performance cues all shape the narrative presented by a fighter.
    AJ never had the glare that Foreman had, or the presence/confidence that Ali had... He never had the durability of a fighter like Frazier, etc etc etc...

    When AJ fought Usyk he did not do a bad job. One could even argue that at least one of those fights could have been given to AJ. don't agree with that, but if AJ had his hand raised in either of those fights it would not be the same as fights like Holy given the nod over Lewis, or Chavez given the nod over Whitaker. But Aj was not able to impose himself on the smaller man. Chisora who lost to Usyk was, by comparison able to threaten Usyk. AJ just did not have another gear, another level, something deep inside... whatever one wants to consider "it." It became apparent that AJ had come to a point where his relative level of skill and determination had set itself.

    AJ has technical skills. His punches are exemplory, especially his jab. And in almost every level, that would be enough, especially in a weak division. But that level willsimply not take one to the level of Fury, Usyk, or Joyce. If they feed AJ to Joyce its going to get really ugly. AJ cannot do more, he is at his peak, getting ready for the twilight years of his career. I look at AJ a lot like I looked at Bruno. Both men had the gift of power, but not the intellect to technically develop their gifts... Neither man had the horrid child hood that made a Sonny Liston, or a Joe Frazier. Neither man had the athletic ability of a Ken Norton.

    Boxers all say the same thing about entering the ring, but some men "know" they can "tap" so to speak, others just won't (Wilder). AJ would be smart to avoid Wilder, Joyce, Fury and maybe try for a cash out fight against one of the prospects. There is nothing broken with AJ lol... but competing against kids who graduated from Julliard in a piano contest is not the same as competing against Horowitz!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Toffee View Post

      I noticed that too.

      It told me you've got a guy with great attributes and good skills but a fairly low boxing IQ, overthinking fighting. The clinch is the time to focus on the fighter an inch away from you, not to look across to your cheat sheets. You've got inbetween rounds for that.

      But it was a tune up. A fight designed for him to get a win. I wouldn't read too much into it.

      We've had plenty of fights in the past where top fighters have not been as spectacular as they would have wanted. But it tends to mean little when the big fights get made. If Joshua fights a Fury or a Wilder then he'll show up as well as he ever could. They'd be great fights.
      The more time he spends with James and starts regaining his self-confidence, the less he'll be looking at the "cheat sheet". AJ would probably benefit from one more interim fight before facing a Fury/Wilder. I want Joshua vs. Joyce, but the politics will probably stop it from happening.
      Last edited by kiaba360; 04-04-2023, 03:51 PM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by chicken- View Post

        Your comment makes no sense, what about complaining and making excuses negates the fact that he took a severe beating in both fights and never quit? AJ is content with the ref waving the fight off while he smiles, Wilder would destroy him./
        I'll agree with You besides that Wilder in his fights gives his all and never quits
        Cool?
        And I'll just add in that Wilder never admits defeat makes up silly excuses on why he lost and accuses his opponent of cheating tactics that Wilder himself can't prove
        Does my Post make sense now?
        Lol
        Last edited by greeneye99; 04-04-2023, 04:28 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          Hahahahahahahahahahaha
          Your absolutely right , these saps were all fooled by Slow Eddie
          They have a hard time admitting it because they used to be yelling that he was gonna be the greatest heavyweight ever
          All a fictional character created by Slow Eddie and the dumb fughin Hearnamaniacs swallowed it all
          Funny how when AJ lost , you see less and less of these morons spitting chit out
          There was one in particular , someone told me it was a kid , and he would come on day in day out and just reply to every single AJ negative replies
          Just trying to justify even chit that was not there
          Especially during the buildup to AJ Wilder ( which never happened )
          Yeah, like that **** 'Em idiot, who used to spam the board with AJ propaganda ;lol1:
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          • #45
            of course.

            pro athletes are human beings. they get older each year.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

              Yeah, like that **** 'Em idiot, who used to spam the board with AJ propaganda ;lol1:
              siablo14

              i find this woman on this poster's sig attractive.

              better looking than that violent fatty megan thee stallion and that weird looking janelle monae.

              by a country mile.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry View Post

                siablo14

                i find this woman on this poster's sig attractive.

                better looking than that violent fatty megan thee stallion and that weird looking janelle monae.

                by a country mile.
                She is nice but Janelle is cuter and Megan has a better body in my eyes.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry View Post

                  siablo14

                  i find this woman on this poster's sig attractive.

                  better looking than that violent fatty megan thee stallion and that weird looking janelle monae.

                  by a country mile.
                  Originally posted by siablo14 View Post

                  She is nice but Janelle is cuter and Megan has a better body in my eyes.
                  Hey man, I'll take all three of those sistas
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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post



                    Hey man, I'll take all three of those sistas
                    Me too. That other guy would only take the one in your sig.

                    He says Megan is ugly and fat and he says Janelle is fat/heading to be fat so he won't smash 'em. Odd lad.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by The D3vil View Post



                      Hey man, I'll take all three of those sistas
                      who is the girl in your sig?

                      that's the type of woman that should have been propped up with black girl magic that hollywood is on right now.

                      instead they prop up disgusting lizzo, barely black zendaya, and all these other black girl magic chicks who are just not doing it for me or most americans. very average. their only qualification is their skin tone.

                      didnt used to be like that. beauty used to be the standard but since we are in woke era, fat, transgender, and all other disgusting deviants are propped up by ********s/hollywood in order to get the political vote.

                      i remember when black girls that were being promoted were halle berry or megan goode. actual good looking sisters.

                      now we get tatted up convicts.

                      hollywood hustling backwards.

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