Fury and Wilder won`t beat Joshua

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  • Kzbox
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    #11
    Originally posted by denium
    OP talks absolute rubbish.
    Went from a Fury fan with his profile pic ect to a full on hater he’s the perfect example I speak on when i say finicky fake fans.

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    • hugh grant
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      #12
      If fury don't fight josh, I will put blame it on fury and and in a fantasy fight i d give the win to Jo sh as he beat him in sparring.
      Yes, Josh beats wilder on points.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        They won’t just beat him…they’ll destroy him.

        If the version from today shows up in the ring against them.
        Based on what? Fury's last two fights, have barely been at World level.

        Joshua was not troubled at all by the best ever version of Franklin 'Franklin on current form is a higher level fighter than Chisora'.

        Of course the performance was not as destructive as people were anticipating from Joshua 'But it was a easy enough systematic win'.

        Franklin is a more in form fighter than Chisora 'And would most likely beat Chisora at this stage of his career'.

        Joshua is a solid super heavyweight who from mid-long range has good boxing skills 'People have also criticized the holding and wrestling on the inside from Joshua last night'.

        But I actually think this aspect of his game has always needed improving. Tyson Fury will have a difficult time trying to bull and wrestle Joshua about. Joshua for me is a physically stronger fighter than Fury 'Even when Joshua was weighing close to 240 pounds, the ceiling of his bruit strength was still greater than Fury's'.

        For all the people who try to make out Fury is some sort of genetic monster 'The fact of the matter is, he is not solid at the weight'. Fury also has bulled no other super heavyweight, the only fighters he has attempted to imposed his strength on are Wilder & USS Cunningham 'Fighters who he has out weighed by a considerably amount'

        Every single time at top level Fury has come up against another Super Heavyweight or solid Heavyweight 'Go back and check his fights, Fury does not really engage with these fighters head on'.

        So stylistically the fight between Joshua & Fury is not as straight forward as Fury blasting Joshua out 'If Fury would not fight a miles out of condition Chisora head on, then don't kid yourselves he is not fighting Joshua head on offensively'.

        Note: I see that Fury's hardcore fans are still giving Fury credit for fighters he has not fought 'It is not going to work anymore mate, it is not working anymore guys'. Fury has to actually face and beat these fighters to gain the credit for beating them. Fury has had more performances than Joshua that were not impressive in his career against lower level fighters than Franklin 'For one, I don't think Ottin Wallin is a more proven fighter than Franklin, and Fury was busted up real good and push by Wallin'.


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        • juggernaut666
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          #14
          Joshua out boxes both , Furys just a very sloppy giant needing size to win and Wilder is terrible when pressured ……todays fans and pundits are garbage as well this forum proves that time and again. Nothing but man fans on here and the very overatted Fury would get lumped up by Joshua he’d be far easier to hit then Franklin so ?

          Enjoy hype jobs Fury and Wilder 2 con artists while Usyk and Joshua actually carry the division .

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #15
            i see joshua v bum squad as 50/50 now, think people overlook that joshua has enough ko power to knock him out too, i cant see him beating fury but who knows with heavyweight boxing

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            • ProblemChild_JakePaul
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              #16
              Originally posted by TheIronMike
              They won't fight him because he fights on an irrelevant app and won't leave.
              Exactly. The only reason I still watch is because I keep forgetting to cancel the damn app!

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #17
                Originally posted by denium
                OP talks absolute rubbish.
                I can never work out whether he’s trolling or not.

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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Joshua out boxes both , Furys just a very sloppy giant needing size to win and Wilder is terrible when pressured ……todays fans and pundits are garbage as well this forum proves that time and again. Nothing but man fans on here and the very overatted Fury would get lumped up by Joshua he’d be far easier to hit then Franklin so ?

                  Enjoy hype jobs Fury and Wilder 2 con artists while Usyk and Joshua actually carry the division .
                  ”Joshua outboxes Fury”.

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                  • Sparked_26
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                    #19
                    Would still like to see him vs Wilder.

                    Yes Wilder could spark him out really early but he also can't box effectively at world level. He loses most round and increasingly he is going to be getting lumped up and hurt in those rounds.

                    AJ's head movement isn't the best but on the plus side he does most things better than Wilder.

                    It's the fight I'd chase if I was AJ really. Yeah Wilder is really dangerous but he's got just as many miles on the clock if not more and he's not as good as you albeit he could sent you to the shadow realm. Wilder also isn't a large heavyweight.

                    Not convinced he drains the AJ tank like others as long as AJ can handle his own breathing and output.
                    Last edited by Sparked_26; 04-02-2023, 06:24 AM.

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                    • Toffee
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                      #20
                      I want to see them all fight.

                      Joshua was unimpressive but I couldn't say he struggled with Franklin. He beat him pretty convincingly. Mind you, who knows whether Franklin is a resilient fighter or a can? He's an unknown quantity.

                      Personally I haven't seen anything of Wilder since the Fury fights to say he's definitely back in the picture. I mean he landed one punch on Helenius half a year ago... it made for good headlines but did we learn anything from that?

                      There are proper fights out there for all of them. They just have to make them or take them.

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