So, I can see Joyce having 3 belts next year

[JakeTheBoxer]

Joyce is slow as f.uck, but Usyk is not getting any younger. Usyk is slowing down and I think Joyce catches him.

Usyk will beat DDD and Hrgovic, but most likely lose his belts to Joyce.

[hhh1200]

AJ or Fury will fight Joyce before Usyk. Both beat him.

Also, I wanted to note on AJ's training. He is in that TX heat and humidity with Charlo and Spence. Those guys have ZERO stamina issues. Charlo's outdoor training in 100 degree heat is insane. Look for his cardio to improve.

[FlatLine]

Usyk's team implied that Joyce is a tougher fight than Fury because of his ability to absorb big punches. Usyk did beat him in a 5 round amateur bout but I think from that experience they realized that 12 rounds against Joyce would be a hard fight.

[M312]

Usyk boxes circles around Joyce, can't see anything different.

I do think Joyce beats Fury though, too relentless and Fury just lacks the power, energy and stamina to keep up.

Weirdly I think the Zhang fight is potentially a banana skin. He does have the power and he's a southpaw, Joyce really didn't need to take this one!

Styles make fights and all that.

Basically, if I'm Joe, I'm angling for that Fury fight. It would sell great in the UK and he has a much better chance of winning... If he gets through Zhang.

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Fury schooled Joyce in sparring when he weighed 30 stone.

Joyce is a good boxer but he gets schooled by Fury and Usyk and KO'd by Wilder.

[BodyBagz]

Tyson Hideme Fury should have his belt taken away from him.
Mouthy cowards don't deserve to be champs.

[FlatLine]

Fury schooled Joyce in sparring when he weighed 30 stone.

Joyce is a good boxer but he gets schooled by Fury and Usyk and KO'd by Wilder.

Sparring is different though. Dubois was around 18 when he sparred Joyce and did well against him. But Joyce beat him in the pros.
And Dillian Whyte knocked out Fury twice in sparring. Or knocked down. Didn't come close to beating him again last year though.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Sparring is different though. Dubois was around 18 when he sparred Joyce and did well against him. But Joyce beat him in the pros.
And Dillian Whyte knocked out Fury twice in sparring. Or knocked down. Didn't come close to beating him again last year though.

Joshua has also battered Fury in sparring.

I think sparring does have a definitive relevance 'But there is another level to which fighters increase their game to on fight night'.

There is a reason why Fury for me, has never been enthusiastic in fighting Joshua.

Fury has only showed enthusiasm in fighting Joshua, when he was at his perceived most vulnerable after his Usyk loss 'Fury tried to pull a opportunistic move offering Joshua a fight at short notice'.

I personally think Fury is more of a game day fighter 'Instead of a good sparring fighter'. I have refereed to this before, Fury's clutch game is one of his best assets etc.

[FlatLine]

Joshua has also battered Fury in sparring.

I think sparring does have a definitive relevance 'But there is another level to which fighters increase their game to on fight night'.

There is a reason why Fury for me, has never been enthusiastic in fighting Joshua.

Fury has only showed enthusiasm in fighting Joshua, when he was at his perceived most vulnerable after his Usyk loss 'Fury tried to pull a opportunistic move offering Joshua a fight at short notice'.

I personally think Fury is more of a game day fighter 'Instead of a good sparring fighter'. I have refereed to this before, Fury's clutch game is one of his best assets etc.

It's true sparring can sometimes be a relevant benchmark in a pro bout but at other times it can be misleading. Fury hasn't seemed too enthusiastic about fighting AJ and it was indeed unashamedly opportunistic to call him out after he'd lost to Usyk.

He might be a game day fighter as you say, although I've heard mixed reports of his efficacy in sparring. He is very selective about who he fights though, and getting the timing of those bouts right. He avoided David Price, Alexander Ustinov, Klitschko rematch, AJ and now the Usyk fight so he does have a history of ducking which many still don't realize.

Ironically Usyk's promoter, Alex Krassyuk, has witnessed 3 of those ducks first hand - Ustinov, Klitschko rematch and Usyk, as all of them were with K2 promotions.

[hugh grant]

For joyce to beat you he needs to land on you a lot. I don't think usy k or fury is that man. Maybe beat josh, and usy k and fury. But don't think I'd have Joyce favourite