Comments Thread For: Usyk's Promoter: Even if Oleksandr Got Zero, It Would Still Not Be Sufficient For Fury

[mrbig1]

There is probably double or triple the money in a Fury-Joshua fight. Everyone knows this. As good as Usyk is his earning power is not the same as AJ or Fury - so promoters know that. If Fury was to lose vs Usyk then a Fury-AJ fight loses 1/2 it's value. Best scenario is Usyk beats Wilder and meets winner of Josh/Fury - but that is unlikely to happen as Usyk will have his mandatories - I'd be surprised if he comes through Dubois. Hgrovic and the other mandatory unscathed and still fresh - due to age and attrition. Shame. Greedy promoter crap.

That's what I've been saying. There is little money to be made off Usyk. Fury was smart to turn down this fight. I think a fight with Ruiz then AJ will retire Fury for good. I'm not sure If team Usyk will let him fight Dubois. Dubois is not very good, but he can punch.

[Shadoww702]

Man Usykk turned down $20 million in London and $60 million in Saudi Arum is saying.

Wow!!!!

[LAchargers373]

If you look at both of their career’s to this point, anyone with average intelligence can tell which one is chasing legacy and greatness, and which one is not. Fighting Chisora 3x’s? pathetic.

enlighten me? Fury’s 3x victories over chisora were more impressive than usyks debateable win over good old war horse. Usyk also debateably beat Bredis who just got schooled by one armed jai opetia(who?). Fury is the premier HW of this era until someone can beat him. You can hype usyk all u want but 2 narrow points wins over AJ is his claim to fame. Put him in vs ruiz wilder ortiz Joyce fury dubois he will lose AT LEAST 2 probably 3 or more of those match ups. Beterbiev drops him with a body shot. Go watch usyk Vs glowacki too. Glowacki drops him with shots to the body too but it’s not counted. Had AJ crowded usyk and roughed him up made it a phone booth fight he could’ve done a number on usyk but his fight IQ isn’t high enough and it never will be. Usyk is the most overated fighter but tbh there’s a few of those in boxing rn usyk and bud crawford are at the top of the list.

[landotter]

1) I do NOT get the posters above talking about how Fury will make more money fighting Joshua... A fight Fury walked away from as well. AJ and his team were frothing at the mouth to get that fight made before they settled on Franklin. Fury was having none of it. So please stop.

2) I also do not get those same posters above me talking about how Usyk was ****** for walking away from Fury talks to settle for fighting DuBois for a ton less money. The mandatory was there, and the sanctioning body gave several postponements to allow Usyk to try and get the Fury fight done. It failed, and they set a deadline or else risk losing the belt. While I personally do not care about these worthless belts, Usyk obviously does. He was going to fulfil his mandatory. So he had no choice. The talks stalled, Usyk moved on.

3) I am also tired of hearing from both camps about the failed talks. Please just move on. But Usyk's team and Fury's teams keep getting ASKED about it. So they comment. Let's not slam either side for answering questions. At least Usyk side admit they were the one's who walked away. Adds credibility to their side of the story.

4) My last thought... I agree with everyone who is wondering if Usyk, a very small HW with basically no power, can survive 3 straight mandatories at his age. Dubois, Joyce, and Hrgovic are the three he would have to fight . (I think Hrgovic would be third, but do not quote me.) That is a HUGE set of fights over the next couple years and will likely happen on their home turfs. I love me some Usyk, but I do not love his chances. Color me crazy, but if he beats Joshua back-to-back, then those three, then retires after all he did in the CW division, not fighting Fury may not mean that much. His legacy would seem to be pure greatness to me.

By the way, Fury can call his own shots. If he wants other fights or to wait on a couple big money opponents, more power to him.

[LAchargers373]

Man Usykk turned down $20 million in London and $60 million in Saudi Arum is saying.

Wow!!!!

Usyk don’t want the fight till he’s retiring. Thing is I think he’ll lose to someone before he gets to fury he’s just not that good. Whoever beats him will have a huge Tyson fury fight lined up waiting for him too. And if usyk beats Dubois he’ll probably angle for fury and 60M fight in saudi in the winter. I don’t blame him for waiting if this is his motivation. It’s not a duck by either. There’s just a huge disparity in the money offered there no reason to take 40M less just to fight 9 months sooner

[chicken-]

I was blaming Fury for this but after knowing the details of Usyk demanding 70/30 if he won for the rematch I realize they are actually mostly to blame.

The fact is Usyk got roughly 25/75 fighting Joshua the first time. In the rematch as the champ he got 50/50, so how the hell is he going to demand 70/30 over Fury in a rematch when Fury is an even bigger draw than Joshua?

[_Rexy_]

enlighten me? Fury’s 3x victories over chisora were more impressive than usyks debateable win over good old war horse. Usyk also debateably beat Bredis who just got schooled by one armed jai opetia(who?). Fury is the premier HW of this era until someone can beat him. You can hype usyk all u want but 2 narrow points wins over AJ is his claim to fame. Put him in vs ruiz wilder ortiz Joyce fury dubois he will lose AT LEAST 2 probably 3 or more of those match ups. Beterbiev drops him with a body shot. Go watch usyk Vs glowacki too. Glowacki drops him with shots to the body too but it’s not counted. Had AJ crowded usyk and roughed him up made it a phone booth fight he could’ve done a number on usyk but his fight IQ isn’t high enough and it never will be. Usyk is the most overated fighter but tbh there’s a few of those in boxing rn usyk and bud crawford are at the top of the list.

lmfao just stop

[crimsonfalcon07]

Wow, Fury fans are flat out ******.

Usyk wanted 70 to the winner, not 70 guaranteed to Usyk.

If Fury won the first fight under those terms, he'd be guaranteed 70 in both fights. So Fury was saying "you're only worth 30 as the undefeated unified champion, but as a defeated challenger you'll be worth 50"? Give me a break.

When Usyk fought AJ he was just a mandatory challenger. He's the unified champion of the world now. And if he wins, he'll be the undisputed heavyweight champion, and the first in the four belt era to be undisputed in two divisions, and Fury will be nothing. He'll have lost to "the middleweight."

And all of that is meaningless anyways because if Fury wins the first fight, Fury would get the 70 in a rematch. But for some reason, Fury is insisting on LESS money to the winner. The only way that makes sense is if Fury doesn't think he'll win.

Not to mention that the rematch clause came from Fury's side to begin. Maybe Fury didn't know about it, maybe he did. But that only became an issue after his 70-30 bluff got called.

[YOU WILL LOSE]

huh? but you werent getting nothing.

they realize theyre going to be making less now right?

[BADGERBHOY]

I was blaming Fury for this but after knowing the details of Usyk demanding 70/30 if he won for the rematch I realize they are actually mostly to blame.

The fact is Usyk got roughly 25/75 fighting Joshua the first time. In the rematch as the champ he got 50/50, so how the hell is he going to demand 70/30 over Fury in a rematch when Fury is an even bigger draw than Joshua?

After beating Fury and becoming undisputed, you think Fury would be the bigger draw. Don't make laugh