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  • #51
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    I mean this is clear evidence of a duck from Fury, not Usyk. The request was for 70 to the winner. So Fury is explicitly saying "you're only worth 30 as the unified undefeated champion, but as a defeated contender, you'll be worth 50." If he actually thought he'd win, 70-30 is better for him anyways, because he'd get 70 in both fights. So Fury's turning down 70 in fight 2 and wanting only 50, but calling Usyk greedy for wanting to give him more money. He's running scared. There's no other explanation. He'd get 140 of 200 Usyk's way, and only 120 with his own request, assuming he wins the first fight. The only way Usyk makes more is if Usyk wins. So if Fury thinks he'll beat the "middleweight" why isn't he jumping at 70 to the winner? Fury fans either suck at math or logic or both.
    Exactly that. If Fury was so sure about beating Usyk, he should in theory have jumped on the chance of getting 2 x 70%. So it's quite obvious who was confident about winning the first and who wasn't (and therefore priced himself out).

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    • #52
      And who will fight WBC paper champion Gypsy queen next? Kossobutskiy?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

        Do you think? For when, what date?

        Fury will most likely offer Ruiz Junior a fight at short notice 'To whatever date he is fighting on'.

        In-between big fights, it will be highly uncharacteristic for Fury to fight Joyce 'David Price has recently stated these observations'.

        Fury has been matched very well, as in 'He will take big fights when he absolutely has to, but in-between these big fights he will fight pretty much at domestic to high end European level' And he will historically not really be swayed by any sort of public pressure with his methods.

        I would even regard Andy Ruiz Junior, with full notice 'A fight at this stage of Fury's career, a bit uncharacteristic'.

        Fury can in all honesty, if he wants to can just have another ticking over fight 'I don't think he cares mate'.

        Do you really think Queensbury are going to tell Fury, that he must make the Joyce fight? No 'Fury will decide, even while subjected to public pressure'.

        The man is playing the heel now 'Although I don't personally consider him a straight up bad guy'. Most of his career he has been that type of fighter 'It was his hardcore fans, that made him their hero'.

        Fury is training so, there must be some fighters in line.
        I see Andy as a potential opponent because Fury is 34/35 and likely wants to cash in as much money as possible before retiring. Andy is a very winnable fight and with the Wilder negotiations looking troubling Fury could eliminate a mandatory and a big fight while waiting for Usyk or AJ.

        That doesn't seem likely due to Fury's history like you said but I imagine there's a decent shot it happens. Especially considering people are dissapointed by undisputed falling through they might try to bolster Fury's selling power and reputation with a decent fighter.

        EDIT: Cinco de Mayo is pretty close. It gives Fury time to train while they set up a deal. It's something Andy amd Fury have talked about. At the end of the day it's all speculation.
        Last edited by bullydean; 03-31-2023, 04:38 PM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by bullydean View Post

          I see Andy as a potential opponent because Fury is 34/35 and likely wants to cash in as much money as possible before retiring. Andy is a very winnable fight and with the Wilder negotiations looking troubling Fury could eliminate a mandatory and a big fight while waiting for Usyk or AJ.

          That doesn't seem likely due to Fury's history like you said but I imagine there's a decent shot it happens. Especially considering people are dissapointed by undisputed falling through they might try to bolster Fury's selling power and reputation with a decent fighter.

          EDIT: Cinco de Mayo is pretty close. It gives Fury time to train while they set up a deal. It's something Andy amd Fury have talked about. At the end of the day it's all speculation.
          You are saying nothing wrong.

          Yes soon enough I expect Fury's moves to become clearer.

          I personally think he may take another ticking over fight 'Maybe two fights at high end European level' in quick concession.

          I don't think Fury will appreciate team Joshua, kind of dictating or putting pressure on him to make that fight 'If Joshua beats Franklin'.

          Fury will do things on his terms, regardless if the public are disappointed.

          Note: I don't think Joshua beating Franklin is a big enough win 'To merit Joshua a title fight'. But I understand that the professional game works differently 'It can be like snakes and ladders' etc.


          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-31-2023, 07:34 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Gypsy Bum View Post
            And who will fight WBC paper champion Gypsy queen next? Kossobutskiy?
            I heard he's negotiating a mega-fight with Nuri Seferi.

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            • #56
              To be honest, it is hard to believe Wilder would fight Usyk.

              The only reason he says he would is probably because he knows Usyk has mandatories.

              Wilder wouldn`t even fight Ruiz in WBC final elimination.

              I think Fury and Wilder are done and we can stop mentioning them as some factors in division.

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