Comments Thread For: David Benavidez: It's Not Like I'm Begging For Canelo Fight; It's Something I've Earned

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  • garfios
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    #51
    Originally posted by Boricua181

    I have to agree with most of your post, Canelo can't explain away any reason why he wouldn't fight Benavidez. Who is undefeated, and a former 2 time champion to boot.
    ​To top that all off Benavidez has been calling him out now for a couple of year's, that's not a good look for El Gran Campeon Mejicano.
    The only part that I didn't agree with in your post was that Benavidez in Mexican/Ecuadorian, not Dominican/Ecuadorian.
    Other than that it's Jab jab, and you lowered the boom on em once again brother.
    His mom is half Ecuadorian/Dominican. You might not agree but he's not wrong.

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    • Jab jab boom
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      #52
      Originally posted by LAchargers373

      False narrative. GGG has no stellar opposition besides canelo his whole career. His best opponent besides canelo is 147 lb kell Brook who came up 2 weight divisions to challenge him like 7 years ago. GGG ducked Pavlik garcia taylor hopkins ward Kovalev Lara .All these guys fought in and around his weight division throughout his career and GGG somehow avoided fighting them all. You could make a case that Cotto ducked him. But that is also paper thin as cotto was on the last 2 fights of his career he took the belt from garcia then fought floyd and retired. So the myth of GGG being ducked his whole career is quite the myth. His career was sculpted like lomachenkos. They avoided all fighters that could possibly beat them to sit around and beg for top paydays. GGG and benevidez are what’s wrong with boxing today. Just fight and win and you will get the big fights. Benevidez has one good win his whole career now he expects a shot at the top fighter in the sport. It’s not reality
      I literally wrote “I’m NOT arguing that ggg has a stellar resume” and you reply by saying false narrative, ggg has no stellar opposition. Lmaooo. Read it slowly next time. As far as ducking ggg, first flex sturm ducked him, then Sergio Martinez ducked him, then Cotto ducked him, then Canelo ducked him (dropped his belt and all in a shameful display of cowardice) then Froch ducked him. The only ones you could say from that era that ggg avoided was Ward and Lara. All the rest of what you wrote is pure nonsense you made up in your head. As far as Benavidez, you just don’t wanna see the fight because you know Canelo gets washed. All that 1 good win jabber is a ploy to justify a duck because please tell me how many fighters over the past 8 yrs has Canelo faced that have elite wins? Go ahead and name them with their best win so I can expose you as a hypocrite.

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        #53
        Originally posted by LAchargers373

        False narrative. GGG has no stellar opposition besides canelo his whole career. His best opponent besides canelo is 147 lb kell Brook who came up 2 weight divisions to challenge him like 7 years ago. GGG ducked Pavlik garcia taylor hopkins ward Kovalev Lara .All these guys fought in and around his weight division throughout his career and GGG somehow avoided fighting them all. You could make a case that Cotto ducked him. But that is also paper thin as cotto was on the last 2 fights of his career he took the belt from garcia then fought floyd and retired. So the myth of GGG being ducked his whole career is quite the myth. His career was sculpted like lomachenkos. They avoided all fighters that could possibly beat them to sit around and beg for top paydays. GGG and benevidez are what’s wrong with boxing today. Just fight and win and you will get the big fights. Benevidez has one good win his whole career now he expects a shot at the top fighter in the sport. It’s not reality
        You can't throw in names like Pavlik. His last fight was at 168 even before Golovkin made his HBO debut. When should a fight like that have happened and why would Pavlik even fight someone like a Golovkin at that time, who hardly anyone even knew?

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        • Boricua181
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          #54
          Originally posted by garfios

          His mom is half Ecuadorian/Dominican. You might not agree but he's not wrong.
          I had never heard about that before is all, but there is no reason for me to doubt someone who has more information on the subject than I do.

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          • MulaKO
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            #55
            Originally posted by Boricua181

            I had never heard about that before is all, but there is no reason for me to doubt someone who has more information on the subject than I do.
            I actually read it on another site
            For a minute , the way they were explaining it , I thought for a moment he had no Mexican blood whatsoever lol
            Wasn’t the case

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            • LAchargers373
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              #56
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom
              I literally wrote “I’m NOT arguing that ggg has a stellar resume” and you reply by saying false narrative, ggg has no stellar opposition. Lmaooo. Read it slowly next time. As far as ducking ggg, first flex sturm ducked him, then Sergio Martinez ducked him, then Cotto ducked him, then Canelo ducked him (dropped his belt and all in a shameful display of cowardice) then Froch ducked him. The only ones you could say from that era that ggg avoided was Ward and Lara. All the rest of what you wrote is pure nonsense you made up in your head. As far as Benavidez, you just don’t wanna see the fight because you know Canelo gets washed. All that 1 good win jabber is a ploy to justify a duck because please tell me how many fighters over the past 8 yrs has Canelo faced that have elite wins? Go ahead and name them with their best win so I can expose you as a hypocrite.
              Hahahahahaha. GGG ducked Pavlik Taylor hopkins he was in europe crushing cans and beating up cab drivers while they were at the top. Pavlik lost to Martinez who himself was at the tail end of his illustrious career he fought like twice more then retired how did he duck GGG? Cotto also was done he fought Martinez and then Floyd and retired these guys were all finished and you’re saying they “ducked” GGG? Why didn’t golovkin come over to the US while they were in their primes? He pulled up in the last 2 years of their careers crying they’re ducking him lmao. From 2008 to 2014 he could’ve come over and got a fight with Pavlik or Taylor or hopkins he didn’t want to risk it. He came over when Pavlik fell off from the booze and old small fighters like Martinez and cotto took temporary control 160. He still won’t fight Lara or charlo at 160 or go near anyone at 168. I’m not even a huge canelo fan I respect his body of work tho. No one can say he hasn’t fought the best competition out of anyone in the sport. No one has the resume he does.

              You want me to name em? GGG 3x bivol kovalev Caleb plant BJS cotto Lara Floyd trout(when he was good lol) Mosley.

              benevidez: Caleb plant

              I like benevidez. I’d like to see these two fight and I think if David keeps winning it is inevitable. But canelo owns real estate in his head rent free lol

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                #57
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Canelo is going to try to avenge his loss to Bivol first. As a prideful champion should.

                Benavidez will still be there afterwards.


                i dont blame him. bivol looks like he's the easier fight compared to benavidez who can hurt canelo.

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                • SweetPbfAli
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                  #58
                  I think Canelo will fight David once his other options are exhausted and he's going to demand one hell of a purse for it.

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                  • Toprope
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LAchargers373

                    Canelo just had hand surgery give him a break he just fought bivol lmao. Also canelo has belts in 3 divisions that’s a lot of mandatories benevidez just needs to keep beating good opponents and the big fights will come. All this canelo chasing is pathetic and bad for boxing. Fight morel charlo andrade beat one or 2 of them I gaurantee the canelo fight will be in big demand. Thing is I think they know if David goes that route he might lose and they don’t wanna jeopardize the payday
                    If the hand holds up Canelo needs to crack those mandatories. Alvarez needs to cycle through each of those mandatories Ryder, Benevidez, Morrel, and one of the bums in the IBF to keep the undisputed title the same way he did to earn the undisputed title. If Alvarez is taking on the weakest contender, John Ryder, now at 168 like he did with champion Yildrim in the first stop to undisputed he needs to clean out the rest. Canelo is the King at 168. I guess? In ancient times the King killed every living and breathing enemy to create the kingdom then maintained the perimeter to keep fools out. Canelo Alvarez does not want to do the maintenance.
                    Last edited by Toprope; 03-29-2023, 02:26 AM.

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                    • Jab jab boom
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LAchargers373

                      Hahahahahaha. GGG ducked Pavlik Taylor hopkins he was in europe crushing cans and beating up cab drivers while they were at the top. Pavlik lost to Martinez who himself was at the tail end of his illustrious career he fought like twice more then retired how did he duck GGG? Cotto also was done he fought Martinez and then Floyd and retired these guys were all finished and you’re saying they “ducked” GGG? Why didn’t golovkin come over to the US while they were in their primes? He pulled up in the last 2 years of their careers crying they’re ducking him lmao. From 2008 to 2014 he could’ve come over and got a fight with Pavlik or Taylor or hopkins he didn’t want to risk it. He came over when Pavlik fell off from the booze and old small fighters like Martinez and cotto took temporary control 160. He still won’t fight Lara or charlo at 160 or go near anyone at 168. I’m not even a huge canelo fan I respect his body of work tho. No one can say he hasn’t fought the best competition out of anyone in the sport. No one has the resume he does.

                      You want me to name em? GGG 3x bivol kovalev Caleb plant BJS cotto Lara Floyd trout(when he was good lol) Mosley.

                      benevidez: Caleb plant

                      I like benevidez. I’d like to see these two fight and I think if David keeps winning it is inevitable. But canelo owns real estate in his head rent free lol
                      your first paragraph is a long useless rant full of nonsense and doesn’t even make sense timeline wise. I’m not even going to bother.
                      But again, since your reading comprehension is slow, you probably don’t even realize that you haven’t answered my question. Tell me, over the past 8 yrs, who has Canelo faced that have elite wins? Since you said Benavidez only has plant, tell me the best wins of anyone he faced after Cotto and compare them to Benavidez best win. Go ahead and name his opponents with their best win. This doesn’t mean who you think were elite wins for canelo (although you’re a hypocrite by listing ggg but saying he never beat anyone better than Brook, then listing Cotto who you just said was done when he beat Martinez yet he faced canelo yrs later, and 40 yr old Mosley). Try and keep up little man.
                      Last edited by Jab jab boom; 03-29-2023, 06:33 AM.

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