Punches landed on Plant: Benevidez (~307), Canelo(117)

[PRINCEKOOL]

All this data represents is that Alvarez fought Plant more efficiently 'Plus Alvarez scored a knock out'.

Alvarez always fights at a efficient pace due to the lack of gears and sub-elite level endurance.

Alvarez most likely beat a slightly better version of Plant also 'A fighter who was undefeated'.

[TheIronMike]

Don't think your math adds up. Canelo isn't plant. Canelo has more power and way better defense with his head movement alone. If Canelo can dodge a Bivol barrage at point blank he can do it for David.

Also since you missed the point entirely, I'll state it differently. It took Canelo less punches to KO plant.

I'll state it directly. Canelo throws one punch at a time and gasses in 6 to 8 rounds. He's getting beaten up just like Bivol and Floyd did him.

[ReggieKray]

- - I'd agree you just another punch monkey fan, not a boxing fan...only in punch monkey world, folks...

Apologies, I'm not sure what punch monkey means, but I'm curious, did you have Pant ahead before the 6th?

More or less what I'm getting at is if you value quantity or quality.

Apart from that, I know a few folks who were scoring the fight live on the Rd by Rd thread had plant way ahead almost mirroring Cheatham's or Moretti's card. I guess you can see what you want to see in those early rounds, but what I saw was plant not being effective at all. Where as David's punches were actually a lot cleaner and clearly doing visable damage.

Lastly, with the the erratic behavior Kenny Bayless, it would suggest he was PBC bought. It Aldo seems like Moretti and Cheatham were also compromised by giving Plant the majority of 1-5.

[eco1]

I take it you maybe haven't seen any of Canelo's last 14 fights where literally all his opponent were taller than him and one even being 6'3... If you would have seen any of his fights, you would have witnessed that Canelo, although smaller, still manges to find a way in and makes his own openings.

Let me put it this way:

I don't think David will fight Canelo the same way going for the head, I think he will target the body more.
If Canelo takes this fight, a big if (after he get's KO'd by Bivol in the 11th in a rematch) and The fight with David goes past the 6 round, Canelo is toasted no matter how much PED's he takes.

[ReggieKray]

I'll state it directly. Canelo throws one punch at a time and gasses in 6 to 8 rounds. He's getting beaten up just like Bivol and Floyd did him.

The point is that those single punches that you say he throws one at a time actually do damage and alter his opponents behavior. Also Canelo has shown that he can go the distance without gassing out in the right conditions. I think you are just fixating on one or two fights.

Lastly, he might but it won't be the free ride plant gave. Plant had nothing for David, but Canelo will. Which will be new for David. Also what will be new for David is fighting someone with actual defense, who can counter, control distance, and capitalize narrow opportunities.

[eco1]

What so the stats "prove" that Benavidez hits harder? Quite the opposite actually. Also, Benavidez had Plant hurt from the 8th and still couldn't get him out of there whereas Canelo finished the job immediately after hurting him, you know the **** the stats can't identify. I actually watch the fights, I don't just look at the stats afterwards.

Caleb was fighting back against Benavidez.

Not that I think he sold himself against Canelo (because that doesn't happen in boxing, LOL) But he never threw a hard punch in the whole fight against Canelo and he does against everyone else.

All of you think Clenelo is a hard puncher, come on, he is average, even after the PED's.

Any B+ fighter can Ko a C+ European fighter.
Canelo is a cherrypicker who knows who he can fight and who he can't.


First Bivol, then Artur, then Usyk, ahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahah. Look where that went!

****ing Midget!

[QballLobo]

Styles make fights. Plant knew his shot was to be the more active fighter which once he ran out of gas left him sitting there to be hit.
Canelo is much more of a counter puncher than a pressure fighter. He threw less but he’s more accurate and his punches later in the fight did more damage and eventually dropped Plant.
Benavidez is a good fighter but he can’t cut off the ring and if his footwork is poor. I think it would be a good fight but I don’t think his style matches up well with Canelo.

[BodyBagz]

Nelo's best weight is MW.
Everything else is him taking risks.

Benny won't be moving up
Biv nor Beter will be moving up

[ReggieKray]

Caleb was fighting back against Benavidez.

Not that I think he sold himself against Canelo (because that doesn't happen in boxing, LOL) But he never threw a hard punch in the whole fight against Canelo and he does against everyone else.

All of you think Clenelo is a hard puncher, come on, he is average, even after the PED's.

Any B+ fighter can Ko a C+ European fighter.
Canelo is a cherrypicker who knows who he can fight and who he can't.


First Bivol, then Artur, then Usyk, ahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahah. Look where that went!

****ing Midget!

You're clearly blind or didn't watch last night's fight. Plant didn't throw shit for power punches against David. All his little combos hit gloves. It was a horrible performance where Plant just relied on tying up but was still getting hit in the process.

If you're not convinced Canelo hits hard you should let him punch you...you'll do us all a big favor so we won't have to read your baseless comments ever again, haha.

[Madison Boxing]

I take it you maybe haven't seen any of Canelo's last 14 fights where literally all his opponent were taller than him and one even being 6'3... If you would have seen any of his fights, you would have witnessed that Canelo, although smaller, still manges to find a way in and makes his own openings.

did he do that against bivol?