Fury & Warren are LIVID at Usyk

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Toffee
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Oct 2018
    • 7198
    • 2,488
    • 74
    • 62,824

    #111
    Originally posted by War Room

    I'm sure it's almost exactly to what he got with AJ. I know for sure they did 50/50 in the rematch and if I know Hearn and AJ, Usyk took 30% going into it, maybe less.

    At the end of the day, Klimas made a demand at the end and didn't even give Warren time to consider it, they left the country.

    You people come in here with your bias against Fury, Of ye cheated, he did this, he's a traveller, and just not having all the information and expect to be taken seriously. You Usyk supporters are the cancer that eats it's way through everything. It's 100% bias.
    I'll ignore the first half. You refuse to accept anything and contradict yourself constantly. It's too much nonsense to keep going back and forth on.

    The second half that I've quoted is a more obvious opportunity to educate you.

    USYK WAS A MANDATORY CHALLENGER.

    How on earth would he take less than his mandated split? He obviously got more - given he sold up his right to it being simply one fight for the belt.

    We would have heard about Joshua petitioning for the increased split, just as we did when Fury did exactly what you are incorrectly accusing Joshua of!!!

    That's not bias. Bias would be to state that Fury did it to avoid a fight against a Whyte that he didn't want. I don't know and can't prove that - but I do know that he did it.

    Wouldn't exactly describe myself as a Usyk supporter, by the way. According to you they don't exist anyway.
    ​​​​

    Comment

    • War Room
      Banned
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Jan 2014
      • 9296
      • 2,806
      • 662
      • 19,006

      #112
      Originally posted by Toffee

      I'll ignore the first half. You refuse to accept anything and contradict yourself constantly. It's too much nonsense to keep going back and forth on.
      I've seen people try and get out of being owned, but this is some of the worst effort ever. You got 100% owned and just say, let's pretend that didn't happen lmao?

      Originally posted by Toffee
      The second half that I've quoted is a more obvious opportunity to educate you.
      Impossible. Your levels are too low and you lose miserably every time we cross paths.

      Originally posted by Toffee
      USYK WAS A MANDATORY CHALLENGER.
      Being a mando doesnt get you a generous split of a rematch. Again, shall we play the I'll just forget that ever happened bit again?

      Originally posted by Toffee
      How on earth would he take less than his mandated split? He obviously got more - given he sold up his right to it being simply one fight for the belt.

      We would have heard about Joshua petitioning for the increased split, just as we did when Fury did exactly what you are incorrectly accusing Joshua of!!!

      That's not bias. Bias would be to state that Fury did it to avoid a fight against a Whyte that he didn't want. I don't know and can't prove that - but I do know that he did it.

      Wouldn't exactly describe myself as a Usyk supporter, by the way. According to you they don't exist anyway.
      ​​​​
      I'll just ignore the second half. You refuse to accept you'll never best me. It's too much nonsense to keep going back and forth on. You're rambling all over the place.

      Klimas and Usyk never wanted the fight: FACT

      They put up roadblock after roadblock and tried unprecedented maneuvers in negotiations that have never been done before in the sport of boxing: FACT.

      Usyk said he didn't want a rematch clause: FACT.

      Everyone said yar it's the Furies =---> it's them. Then it comes out the Usyk walked off because he couldn't get the rematch clause done to his taste: FACT.

      Usyk said on film it was all Tyson: FACT.

      But the rematch clause was really what made them leave the table: FACT.

      He got 50/50, just what AJ gave him. Not good enough, walked: FACT.

      You should look into some troll night classes. This is some of your worst work.

      Comment

      • hugh grant
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Apr 2006
        • 30064
        • 2,142
        • 811
        • 105,596

        #113
        Originally posted by War Room

        That's the same deal AJ gave Usyk. We AJ delusional too?



        The six or so you disappeared from. Want links?
        But usyk has more credentials now hasn't he than when Joshua fought usyk

        Comment

        • Richard
          Interim Champion
          Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
          • Sep 2017
          • 761
          • 67
          • 165
          • 25,331

          #114
          Originally posted by War Room


          Usyk said he didn't want a rematch clause: FACT.

          Everyone said yar it's the Furies =---> it's them. Then it comes out the Usyk walked off because he couldn't get the rematch clause done to his taste: FACT.

          Usyk said on film it was all Tyson: FACT.

          But the rematch clause was really what made them leave the table: FACT.

          He got 50/50, just what AJ gave him. Not good enough, walked: FACT.

          .
          Thing is I read that Uysk got far more in the two Joshua fights than he was going to get for Fury. Way I see it is greed is getting in the way of Fury which is such a shame as he has given us some great nights of boxing notably the first Wilder fight for me. The other thing is Uysk had been in training since December for the proposed Fury fight and he really wanted it. Hence in the initial proceedings there was no rematch clause. This was put in by Furys side and then they went back on it. Then Uysk accepts Fury 70/30 but wanted more on the rematch if he beat Fury which is fair enough in any sport. I know there is the possibility of a clash of heads etc which could stop a fight on a technicality after 4 rounds but its the principle.

          Comment

          • Smash
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Nov 2008
            • 14492
            • 6,044
            • 7,494
            • 21,172

            #115
            Originally posted by War Room

            Perhaps a few glasses of Dingleberry wine?
            to be fair to both fury and usyk, i have said in previous posts in other threads that they could both be at fault but i blame fury more than usyk because waiting till 7 weeks before fight night and then demanding 70% or no fight is BS imo, usyk slapped a 70%er of his own on in response to that bad offer (i believe) but could have taken 50% in the rematch if he won to make it happen, i dont know what fury was offering if usyk lost the first match tho and other details, its all in the past now so........ as others have said once the saudi cash went compromise was needed to get it done, which didnt happen

            Comment

            • War Room
              Banned
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Jan 2014
              • 9296
              • 2,806
              • 662
              • 19,006

              #116
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              But usyk has more credentials now hasn't he than when Joshua fought usyk
              It's starpower at this stage, not belts.

              Originally posted by Ricky
              Thing is I read that Uysk got far more in the two Joshua fights than he was going to get for Fury.
              Where did you read that?

              Originally posted by Smash

              to be fair to both fury and usyk, i have said in previous posts in other threads that they could both be at fault but i blame fury more than usyk because waiting till 7 weeks before fight night and then demanding 70% or no fight is BS imo, usyk slapped a 70%er of his own on in response to that bad offer (i believe) but could have taken 50% in the rematch if he won to make it happen, i dont know what fury was offering if usyk lost the first match tho and other details, its all in the past now so........ as others have said once the saudi cash went compromise was needed to get it done, which didnt happen
              The date wasn't set so your waiting until 7 weeks isn't 100% accurate. I was reading there was another date of June x on the table. Either way, negotiations are exactly that, sometimes things don't get ironed out until later during the process.

              Usyk didn't want the rematch allegedly and the fight derails over his outlandish demands on the rematch. It's crystal clear ffs.

              Comment

              • Smash
                Undisputed Champion
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Nov 2008
                • 14492
                • 6,044
                • 7,494
                • 21,172

                #117
                Originally posted by War Room



                Usyk didn't want the rematch allegedly and the fight derails over his outlandish demands on the rematch. It's crystal clear ffs.
                Whats crystal clear (i think) is that fury demanding 70% was outlandish, i think he could have just done 60/40 fury with 50/50 on the rematch, i think (& we wont know that) that usky would have taken that split but fury said no budge from 70% so he imo gets most of the blame, i just wanted to see if the ukranian could upset mr blobby in the ring, would have been a fun fight to watch, shame really

                Comment

                • War Room
                  Banned
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 9296
                  • 2,806
                  • 662
                  • 19,006

                  #118
                  Originally posted by Smash

                  Whats crystal clear (i think) is that fury demanding 70% was outlandish, i think he could have just done 60/40 fury with 50/50 on the rematch, i think (& we wont know that) that usky would have taken that split but fury said no budge from 70% so he imo gets most of the blame, i just wanted to see if the ukranian could upset mr blobby in the ring, would have been a fun fight to watch, shame really
                  I don't think it is outlandish. I think 80/20 is outlandish which is what he took against AJ in their first fight...just looked it up.

                  In their first fight, Joshua received a reported guarantee of $13.7 million while Usyk earned a guaranteed $4.1 million​. Usyk essentially got 22% so the split was 78/22 =---> basically 80/20.

                  Nobody was crying about that now were they? Fury wants 70/30 and the sky is falling. It's just haters hating at this point. No legs to stand on.

                  Comment

                  • Smash
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14492
                    • 6,044
                    • 7,494
                    • 21,172

                    #119
                    Originally posted by War Room

                    I don't think it is outlandish. I think 80/20 is outlandish which is what he took against AJ in their first fight...just looked it up.

                    In their first fight, Joshua received a reported guarantee of $13.7 million while Usyk earned a guaranteed $4.1 million​. Usyk essentially got 22% so the split was 78/22 =---> basically 80/20.

                    Nobody was crying about that now were they? Fury wants 70/30 and the sky is falling. It's just haters hating at this point. No legs to stand on.
                    odd, dont mandatory challengers in the sport of boxing get a guaranteed 25% split anyway & the fact that usyk agreed to a rematch clause he should have got a better split than even that, thats what i remember, could be wrong tho will try to look up when i can, too lazy now by far

                    Comment

                    • ELPacman
                      LEGENDARY
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 10349
                      • 1,823
                      • 144
                      • 34,372

                      #120
                      If anyone didn't see this coming from a mile away, you got to be blind. The second they made it sound like it was going to happen in April, I was like, no way in hell. Fury was in no condition to actually fight yet. He's the kind that needs a few months between fights to really get back into the groove. Usyk appears to always be in fight ready shape.

                      Clearly Fury didn't intend for Usyk to call his bluff and once he did, they had to go crazy now on putting blame back on Usyk. It's an obvious ****show and makes me care probably less for this fight than ever.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP