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  • #31
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    Pay attention. Usyk's team said almost two weeks ago that Fury's team had put in the rematch clause.

    March 13: “Greedy belly, rematch clause comes from your side, not mine. Stop whining and ducking, be a man. Ink the contact or vacate the belt. I need undisputed and not to play your ****** games.”

    I wouldn't be surprised if Warren (or Arum, who has been surprisingly silent) put it in by default and Fury didn't know, but more than a week before any of this blew up, Usyk's team already said that the rematch clause had been put in by Fury's side, which makes it look like games when Fury freaks out about the rematch clause his own side put in. Note that Warren had also told Usyk's team even before then that Fury was asking for too much money.

    "Krassyuk told iD Boxing: 'I can only tell you from the words I hear from my negotiators, my partners Frank and George Warren. According to their reports, Tyson Fury was asking for too much money.'
    Krassyuk went on to add: 'Even if Oleksandr Usyk if would get zero for the fight, it would still not be sufficient for Tyson to cover his [demands]." -Daily Mail UK, March 10.

    So we've already had a list of unreasonable demands from Fury made public.



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    There’s no way Warren was going to go in the fight without a rematch clause for Fury one way or other before the deadlines of the sanctioned bodies .

    The 80/20 stipulation was always going to be a last minute ditch effort for Fury , of course Warren knew about it he drew up his side of the contract Arum had nothing to with this contract because he wouldn’t do a nonsensical contract like that he knows and said it shouldn’t be less then a 60/40 split in the U.K himself . Lol
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    • #32
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

      Pay attention. Usyk's team said almost two weeks ago that Fury's team had put in the rematch clause.

      March 13: “Greedy belly, rematch clause comes from your side, not mine. Stop whining and ducking, be a man. Ink the contact or vacate the belt. I need undisputed and not to play your ****** games.”

      I wouldn't be surprised if Warren (or Arum, who has been surprisingly silent) put it in by default and Fury didn't know, but more than a week before any of this blew up, Usyk's team already said that the rematch clause had been put in by Fury's side, which makes it look like games when Fury freaks out about the rematch clause his own side put in. Note that Warren had also told Usyk's team even before then that Fury was asking for too much money.

      "Krassyuk told iD Boxing: 'I can only tell you from the words I hear from my negotiators, my partners Frank and George Warren. According to their reports, Tyson Fury was asking for too much money.'
      Krassyuk went on to add: 'Even if Oleksandr Usyk if would get zero for the fight, it would still not be sufficient for Tyson to cover his [demands]." -Daily Mail UK, March 10.

      So we've already had a list of unreasonable demands from Fury made public.



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      I guess I’m a few weeks behind. Never saw any of those articles… Thanks for the update…

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      • #33
        Dubois will get a title fight before Joyce who KO'd him. Garbage boxing.
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        • #34
          Frank Warren must be planning to ruin DD's career. He is no way ready for Usyk. DD was stopped by Joyce. He has tasted the canvas numerous times. He needs more skills when fighting a high level fighter. Does anyone believe Warren? Warren lied about Fury being in training. SugarHill confirmed this: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...k-fight/260177. Warren seems as crooked and stained as his teeth.
          Last edited by Lxg; 03-25-2023, 12:23 AM.
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          • #35
            Senile Fish-Eyes must be on the nosebag just like his lying ducking Gypsy Fraud client. Funny how the moment the Gypsy Fraud finally comes up with a demand that Usyk won't bend over for, old FishEyes is demanding mandatories or belt vacation. But where is Gypsy Frauds mandatory? The WBac will protect Fury and let him enjoy the belt for another year with no credible opponent, just like they did with protected fraud #bumsquad. What a joke! For all their faults or supposed shortcomings, at least Usyk and AJ actually step up for the big fights, whilst the Gypsy Queen runs away like a little girl and gets high on sniff to give him the courage to mouth everyone else off on social media.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

              This is it. As Krassyuk said, Fury had a list of demands to which they acceded but "it was the split in the rematch that gave ignition and it just exploded."

              Disingeuous of Warren to say there was just one issue. Had they agreed to the rematch split, Fury would then have moved on to the next unreasonable demand and the next until he found one they wouldn't agree. Then Warren would claim "that was the only thing. No list, just one."
              Everyone can see the game Greedybelly was playing.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                So which is it? Fury was extremely upset in his rant that he had to give Usyk a rematch. Now Frank Warren in this article states Usyk asked for the rematch. So did Usyk ask for the rematch or not? Usyk’s manager ranted about a list of things but never said what those lists of demands were. Warren has now twice said it was the rematch split that was the only road block. Did Usyk ask for the rematch or not? I want to hear what Team Usyk says about this. If Team Fury didn’t want a rematch clause that could suggest they were pretty confident they would beat Usyk. So we have both the promoter & fighter on one side saying the other fighter demanded a rematch clause & they agree to it but didn’t like the split & the other team saying there was a long list of demands but refuses to list them or acknowledge that they were the party who asked for the rematch. I want to hear it from Usyk & his manager. What were the list of items? Did they ask for a rematch clause or not? Team Usyk pulled the plug so what is the reason? What are these items on the long list? All I read is it was Fury’s fault but the only ones speaking on it are Team Fury. Fury with his usual name calling tirades & twice Warren said it was the split on the rematch & he felt it could be worked out. Until this long list of demands is brought to light by Usyk’s manager I refuse to solely blame Fury for the breakdown of this fight.
                It was predominately Tyson Fury's antics and demands that resulted in this fight not being made.

                Just accept this mate, and stop it with the Fury defending.

                Fury ever since he has become Champion has a track record of being extremely difficult for his nearest competition to actually fight.

                The only people defending Fury are his hardcore fans, or people with agenda's.

                This is all apart of the Fury reign, these type of negotiations with his nearest competition will most likely continue.

                Who is Fury fighting next? Do you think that fight will be made easily if it is a top fighter? Will his next opponent even be a World level fighter?

                Of course most people are going to state that Fury is the reason predominately for this fight not happening 'He was the fighter or his team were the parties continually altering the demands' Because they could etc.

                Usyk for me was disrespected during the entire process of the negotiations.

                I think people should move on from the fight 'Usyk will be pursing his mandatory, and Fury well? Nobody really knows his next move.

                That is the question people should be asking now 'What is Fury's next move?'.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lxg View Post
                  Frank Warren must be planning to ruin DD's career. He is no way ready for Usyk. DD was stopped by Joyce. He has tasted the canvas numerous times. He needs more skills when fighting a high level fighter. Does anyone believe Warren? Warren lied about Fury being in training. SugarHill confirmed this: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...k-fight/260177. Warren seems as crooked and stained as his teeth.
                  The object is to just chance a title fight here ,maybe wear Usyk down for Joyce who’s also in his line up . Warren is in a no lose situation , obviously he knows Joyce is his best fighter after Fury ,DDD has always been plan B for him after the Joyce fight that’s why he fought the easy fights while Joyce fought the hard ones .

                  People forget but it was Usyk who was supposed to fight Joshua in 2018 as the mandatory but wanted more fights to get warmed up at heavyweight so these fights would have happened sooner one way or other , some injuries postponed his fights then Covid happened . Warren would be foolish not to advise DDD to take the fight if he’s able to . Fury won’t be around forever and when he’s gone you’ll see how thing his stable is and he’s also banking on Moses Otauma whatever his name is in the future so getting two guys at Usyk is the plan and DDD isn’t going to chance a losss after the last fight if he’s offered a fight of a unified champion.

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                  • #39
                    DuBois isn't worthy of a title shot. Joyce is!!!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TinAgeOfBoxing View Post
                      Dubois will get a title fight before Joyce who KO'd him. Garbage boxing.
                      Dubois is WBA mandatory, Joyce is WBO mandatory.

                      Joshua fought WBO mandatory ( Usyk), so next WBO mandatory can`t be called before WBA.

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