Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: I'm Not Going To Sit Around And Wait For Geezer Tyson Fury!

[thack]

Fury must stop this 'I'll fight for free ' and then demand the lions share , that is un-defendable rubbish .Like all fans I'm sick of these business politics , it' was only last December that Fury v Joshua was put on ice for one of the reasons being that Joshua's high paying sponsors didn't agree with it , among one of the vague reasons for it not to take place The other that it was a bad time for Joshua .The dreaded rematch clause (which should be banned!!) seems responsible for the latest cancellation as all other matters from both have been resolved. So a fight somewhere down the line , the so called 'rematch clause' has put the brakes on a unified Heavyweight title fight because some promoter and boxer wants it guaranteed they get paid twice ......that's the sad reality!

[thack]

You know EVERYBODY on here dissed Wilder BUT he is the only FIGHTER WHO LITERALLY TRIES TO GET FIGHTS TO HAPPEN…..

Y’all can say what you want but he at least TRIES to fight the BEST!!!

He agreed to fight AJ in England for a flat fee of 15 million. Y’all can act like it didn’t happen but IT DID!!!

AJ DUCKED HIM AND ALL YALL APPLAUDED!!!

He is the draw. He is the A Side. That thinking is why NO REAL FIGHTS ARE GETTING MADE!!!

AJ IS NOW A PROVEN DUCKER

FURY IS NOW A PROVEN DUCKER

I bet you if USYK offers Wilder a fight HE WILL TAKE IT!!!

WIN, LOSE, OR DRAW!!!

That is why it is REAL when he says he is a WARRIOR!!!

Y’all hate on this man BUT HE WILL FIGHT WHOMEVER

Wilder would fight Usyk tomorrow IF the money was right , if it wasn't ,then I hope you wouldn't call Wilder a 'Ducker'

[mjbjst]

He isn't fighting Fury or Wilder this year we know that for sure. But he needs at least one of them on his resume

Wilder doesn't enhance anyone's resume at this point

[bullydean]

I agree.It's all about money , ask Joshua . Why would Fury want to be tied to a rematch for much less with Uysk when he could beat him and then fight Joshua for a massive career high payday for both ....... .Hearn has already said Joshua would be ready to fight Fury in the summer and for once I believe him ! In the days coming I'm sure the truth will emerge and things will be much clearer. Joshua fights in a weeks time and if as expected he wins, he would be free to fight Fury which would net Fury much more money for one fight than fighting Usyk twice. IT's a business .Fury should fight Usyk once, but drop his demands for a 70-30 (although he brings the money at Wembley) and get Usyk out of the way in a 50/50 or at least a 60/40 ...if Usyk agree's then everyones happy , if he doesn't then we know for sure what he's up to. And the fight between Fury and Joshua , which they both want can take place without one or the other at last not being tied up with some rematch clause ...again with someone else.It's not rocket science (although it might be for some) it's just good business sense ...ask Joshua !

There's also the fact that neither fighter had a rematch clause. Win or lose Fury would move on and likely still fight AJ.

[Boxviewer]

He isn't fighting Fury or Wilder this year we know that for sure. But he needs at least one of them on his resume

AJ has tried to make the Wilder fight, for undisputed championship, but he didn't want the smoke even a 100M offer couldn't placate him. Maybe now both have losses Wilder might be wiling to entertain the idea of facing him.

[Toffee]

I agree.It's all about money , ask Joshua . Why would Fury want to be tied to a rematch for much less with Uysk when he could beat him and then fight Joshua for a massive career high payday for both ....... .Hearn has already said Joshua would be ready to fight Fury in the summer and for once I believe him ! In the days coming I'm sure the truth will emerge and things will be much clearer. Joshua fights in a weeks time and if as expected he wins, he would be free to fight Fury which would net Fury much more money for one fight than fighting Usyk twice. IT's a business .Fury should fight Usyk once, but drop his demands for a 70-30 (although he brings the money at Wembley) and get Usyk out of the way in a 50/50 or at least a 60/40 ...if Usyk agree's then everyones happy , if he doesn't then we know for sure what he's up to. And the fight between Fury and Joshua , which they both want can take place without one or the other at last not being tied up with some rematch clause ...again with someone else.It's not rocket science (although it might be for some) it's just good business sense ...ask Joshua !

The theory is always... why would Fury do what fight fans want when he could instead fight [Big name 1], [Big name 2], [Big name 3] in 12 months and then retire as the best ever?

Look at Fury's history. Tell me that's a guy who is ever going to go from one big fight to the next.

2018 Fought Wilder in an accelerated comeback
2019 turned down ordered rematch with 40% split to fight Schwarz and Wallin
2020 Fought Wilder... spent the next 18 months talking about big fights and trying to swerve the rematch
2021 Forced to finally fight Wilder after 20 months
2022 Mandated fight against Whyte after petitioning the WBC for more money. Then loads of talk about big fights again before fighting Chisora, who we already knew he was negotiating with!

History tells you everything you need to know. He's not going to suddenly fight back to back fights against Usyk and Joshua.

Say what you like about him, but he's pretty consistent in what he does. He might say the opposite but you're not supposed to actually believe him!

My money is on Ngannou for his next fight. Then protracted negotiations over a mandatory. Possibly Ruiz or Wilder. Odds on he retires again. And through all of that he'll talk about Usyk, Joyce, Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz and say he doesn't care who he fights as he would beat them all.

It's what he's always done.

[Boxviewer]

I agree.It's all about money , ask Joshua . Why would Fury want to be tied to a rematch for much less with Uysk when he could beat him and then fight Joshua for a massive career high payday for both ....... .Hearn has already said Joshua would be ready to fight Fury in the summer and for once I believe him ! In the days coming I'm sure the truth will emerge and things will be much clearer. Joshua fights in a weeks time and if as expected he wins, he would be free to fight Fury which would net Fury much more money for one fight than fighting Usyk twice. IT's a business .Fury should fight Usyk once, but drop his demands for a 70-30 (although he brings the money at Wembley) and get Usyk out of the way in a 50/50 or at least a 60/40 ...if Usyk agree's then everyones happy , if he doesn't then we know for sure what he's up to. And the fight between Fury and Joshua , which they both want can take place without one or the other at last not being tied up with some rematch clause ...again with someone else.It's not rocket science (although it might be for some) it's just good business sense ...ask Joshua !

You can say all you want but the fact remains that Greedy belly didn't want the Usyk fight right from the beginning hence the ridiculous 70/30 split. Usyk called his bluff. If he was confident enough that he could beat the middleweight he would have agreed on the proposed rematch split. Regarding an AJ fight it's obvious that AJ has leaned from his two previous attempts to make a fight with Greedy belly so he won't tolerate much of his negotiation antic next time. Greedy belly has to show that he's serious right from the first minute of the negotiation otherwise AJ will just move on as he has said in this article.

[thack]

He isn't fighting Fury or Wilder this year we know that for sure. But he needs at least one of them on his resume

He does indeed , as the most hardened Joshua fanatics come to a standstill and go quiet with the question of who is Anthony Joshua's biggest victory against ! But wait it seems more likely now that the biggest payday announcement for both Fury and Joshua is only around a week away if Joshua does the expected against his hand picked opponent. ...Imagine Wilder v Usyk and Fury v Joshua ...this IS what should be happening in this great sport!

[thack]

The theory is always... why would Fury do what fight fans want when he could instead fight [Big name 1], [Big name 2], [Big name 3] in 12 months and then retire as the best ever?

Look at Fury's history. Tell me that's a guy who is ever going to go from one big fight to the next.

2018 Fought Wilder in an accelerated comeback
2019 turned down ordered rematch with 40% split to fight Schwarz and Wallin
2020 Fought Wilder... spent the next 18 months talking about big fights and trying to swerve the rematch
2021 Forced to finally fight Wilder after 20 months
2022 Mandated fight against Whyte after petitioning the WBC for more money. Then loads of talk about big fights again before fighting Chisora, who we already knew he was negotiating with!

History tells you everything you need to know. He's not going to suddenly fight back to back fights against Usyk and Joshua.

Say what you like about him, but he's pretty consistent in what he does. He might say the opposite but you're not supposed to actually believe him!

My money is on Ngannou for his next fight. Then protracted negotiations over a mandatory. Possibly Ruiz or Wilder. Odds on he retires again. And through all of that he'll talk about Usyk, Joyce, Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz and say he doesn't care who he fights as he would beat them all.

It's what he's always done.

You make sense , difference is, Fury doesn't ...it might turn out he makes money sense if they pull together a Joshua fight next but the real fight left for him is Usyk who of course beat Joshua .I hope you're not right about the Ngannou fight as it proves nothing in boxing terms for either Fury , Joshua or Wilder who have all been interested. Truth is the money fight , now that Fury v Usyk is off the table in Saudi is Fury v Joshua with a guaranteed rematch clause that both parties will demand! Fury doesn't want to be tied to a low money rematch clause with Usyk when he could earn tens of millions more v Joshua or as you say , to a point Ngannou

[thack]

You can say all you want but the fact remains that Greedy belly didn't want the Usyk fight right from the beginning hence the ridiculous 70/30 split. Usyk called his bluff. If he was confident enough that he could beat the middleweight he would have agreed on the proposed rematch split. Regarding an AJ fight it's obvious that AJ has leaned from his two previous attempts to make a fight with Greedy belly so he won't tolerate much of his negotiation antic next time. Greedy belly has to show that he's serious right from the first minute of the negotiation otherwise AJ will just move on as he has said in this article.

I won't even reply to your ******ity...