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Given Floyd’s high boxing IQ - I think we can all agree, he would adapt and beat any top 5 WW out there

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  • #51
    Originally posted by Escorpion View Post

    If you mean Canelo or Pacquiao, they shouldn't get much credit either. Less compared to Floyd who at least beat him when coming off a win against a downspiraling Margarito after the handwrap controversy and a shot Mayorga.

    If you read any comments of me crediting either based on that win, feel free to call me out as I might probably have done so in the past, but knowing the circumstances now I can't.

    As for the gif, just saying if it was the prime version of the same fighter, he would either finished the fight right there, have capitalized on it or successfully landed similar shots throughout the fight.

    The guy still was dangerous, but Mosley was 40 years old at this point of his career.
    Pac shouldn't, but he does.
    Nelo will forever be 8 years younger than GGG.

    I'm not going to search your posts.
    It would be easier to just take your word for it.

    We don't know how prime Mosley vs May would have went.
    To say Mosley would have ended May is one possible outcome.
    Another would be May ''survives'' and wins the rest of the rds.

    No one was calling Shane an old man after he demolished Margarito (or was Margarito a fraud ?).

    No one, imHO, was going to beat May under 160

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

      Esteban Jesus, Kirkland Lang, Robbie Sims all beat Duran, Floyd would probably not lose a single round to those guys.

      And then apply the same criteria to the many fighters that took Ray and Thommy to loses and also the distance, Hearns only elite KO win was Duran the rest were hard could battles, the point is highlight reels hardly every come from the superfights.

      Fantasy fights are just that, they are imagined and what is imagined is the highlight reel when there is no guarantee that's what you will get in the real world. So in a real contests Floyd could possibly beat all of them, personally, I think he is too small for the ATG WWs but he has so much defensive ability and ring iq nobody could say for certain how fantasy fights would go, it cracks me seeing the haters and many others so matter of fact in a pure fantasy contest, there is a whole backend of bias behind that matter of fact.
      To be fair, considering it was 70-80s, there will plenty of inconsistencies when it comes to some performances, most fighters fought 7-10 times a year.

      Any fully disciplined and healthy version of a top ATG would have been to dispose of the lesser fighters that managed to beat them.

      I can't really say that I know for certain what would happen in a hypothetical theory.

      I just started digging in Floyd's resume and watching some fights so I might not be thinking with a clear head, Just questioning the legitimacy of some wins. Obviously there is plenty of good wins like Corrales, Castillo (Rematch), Hernandez, Hatton, Canelo, Guerrero and Maidana. (Rematch)

      But then I see fighters with conditions that puts them at a clear disadvantage or if Floyd had a questionable upper hand in the scorecards against fighters like Marquez, Castillo, Maidana, Cotto, De La Hoya, Mosley, Maidana, McGregor, and Paquiao.

      Just guessed that Duran switched places with Maidana or if SRL did so with a shot DLH, then they would outperformed them considering they have similar strengths but overall are superior both technically and physically.

      But who knows, it might not be as cut and dried as I think it is. Floyd might perform better if the level of competition elevates or the ATGs could underperform due to being a stylistic disadvantage.

      Just stating my opinion, I don't think Floyd would had beaten a WW top 5 ATG based on some performances. I might be wrong but so far not sure why I should think otherwise.
      Last edited by Malvado; 03-24-2023, 06:09 AM.
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      • #53
        Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

        Pac shouldn't, but he does.
        Nelo will forever be 8 years younger than GGG.

        I'm not going to search your posts.
        It would be easier to just take your word for it.

        We don't know how prime Mosley vs May would have went.
        To say Mosley would have ended May is one possible outcome.
        Another would be May ''survives'' and wins the rest of the rds.

        No one was calling Shane an old man after he demolished Margarito (or was Margarito a fraud ?).

        No one, imHO, was going to beat May under 160
        Not sure but it is quite likely that Margarito was a fraud, the general concensus agreed that Margarito used plaster of paris in his handwraps. He even got his license revoked.

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        Though if he was wearing plaster the whole time, at least one fighter would had ended up like Billy Collins.

        Also you don't think rangy fighters like Paul Williams or Maravilla Martinez couldn't had beaten him by the way?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Escorpion View Post

          Not sure but it is quite likely that Margarito was a fraud, the general concensus agreed that Margarito used plaster of paris in his handwraps. He even got his license revoked.

          482x316_10.jpg

          Though if he was wearing plaster the whole time, at least one fighter would had ended up like Billy Collins.

          Also you don't think rangy fighters like Paul Williams or Maravilla Martinez couldn't had beaten him by the way?
          - - License revoked by Cali Cornflake Commish that ignored he was wearing Cali Cornflake sanctioned wraps. The wraps never made it into a fight, so, no proof he ever used loaded wraps...

          Yer Welcome...

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

            He'd last longer than Pac.
            Then again, Pac is never matched vs ATGs
            Floyd would duck prime Hearns
            Manny would not

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Escorpion View Post

              Not sure but it is quite likely that Margarito was a fraud, the general concensus agreed that Margarito used plaster of paris in his handwraps. He even got his license revoked.

              482x316_10.jpg

              Though if he was wearing plaster the whole time, at least one fighter would had ended up like Billy Collins.

              Also you don't think rangy fighters like Paul Williams or Maravilla Martinez couldn't had beaten him by the way?
              Pac fans love them some Margacheato.
              He's their go to Boogeyman.

              No one beats May.
              He is too smart and versatile.
              Paul was too eager and often smothered his own punches. Slow and predictable Margarito landed a million punches on Paul.
              I could rightfully assume May would have done better.

              Sergio would have been an awesome fight. Thing is, he tried to be smooth like May when no one is as smooth.
              Once he found out how fast AND elusive May is, he would be lost.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                Floyd would duck prime Hearns
                Manny would not
                Pac would put Hearns on multiple *'s
                Fight would be at 141 and not a ounce over

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                • #58


                  SMDH...

                  1) Margarito's ''style'' demands you hit him......often.
                  2)Paul's style consists of a lot of missing and wasted movements
                  Add them together and you get ''action''.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                    Pac would put Hearns on multiple *'s
                    Fight would be at 141 and not a ounce over
                    Floyd would fight Hearns after he'd been ko'd multiple times and was coming off a win on a c level opponent

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post
                      SRL beats him
                      Duran beats him
                      Hearns decapitates him
                      Old De la Hoya got robbed, young DLH beats him rather easily
                      Tito Trinidad knocks him out cold

                      only duran is actually floyd's size, all those other guys are naturally larger. you basically have to have a size advantage to expect any chance with floyd, hes that good.

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