The soap opera at HW continues.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    The soap opera at HW continues.

    2018, Wilder and Joshua hold the four belts between them and we start thinking we might finally get an undisputed fight instead we hear about “proof of funds” “escrow” “£50 million offers” and all the other bullsh** the fight doesn’t happen.

    2020, Fury beats Wilder and now Fury and Joshua hold the four belts and we start thinking surely we get an undisputed fight now with two guys from the same country. Hearn tells us “the fight is on”, Warren tells us it’s “done”, Joshua says “send the contract”, Fury says “sign the contract” and all the other bullsh**. They all lied, the fight doesn’t happen.

    2022, Usyk beats Joshua for a second time and the four belts are held by Fury and Usyk and we’re thinking surely now this undisputed fight happens. Fury can’t agree a deal with the Saudi’s, Fury demands 70/30, negotiations fall apart and once again the undisputed fight doesn’t happen.

    At this point I’m past caring, F*** HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING!!!!
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    I think we would have gotten an undisputed Champion (probably Fury) in 2020 had Wilder not enforced his contractual right to a rematch against Fury.

    But yeah I'm with you, f#ck heavyweight boxing.
    Last edited by BoxingParadigm; 03-22-2023, 07:22 AM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by BoxingParadigm
      I think we would have gotten an undisputed Champion (probably Fury) in 2020 had Wilder not enforced his contractual right to a rematch against Fury.

      But yeah I'm with, f#ck heavyweight boxing.
      Fury was not willing to pay Wilder step aside money and couldn’t jump fast enough to take a third Wilder fight where it even had Shelly Finkle coming out and saying it was strange no counter offer was ever offered to them by team Fury . Fury had no intentions on a Joshua fight ever that was clear with deadlines being demanded after Joshua accepted terms .

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        #4
        Originally posted by juggernaut666

        Fury was not willing to pay Wilder step aside money and couldn’t jump fast enough to take a third Wilder fight where it even had Shelly Finkle coming out and saying it was strange no counter offer was ever offered to them by team Fury . Fury had no intentions on a Joshua fight ever that was clear with deadlines being demanded after Joshua accepted terms .
        This is a fair point, I don't agree with the notion Fury had no intentions to fight Joshua, I just think he didn't want to give Wilder any money and thought the AJ fight would still be there afterwards. But that's just my opinion, you could be right even though I don't see it that way.

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          #5
          Originally posted by BoxingParadigm

          This is a fair point, I don't agree with the notion Fury had no intentions to fight Joshua, I just think he didn't want to give Wilder any money and thought the AJ fight would still be there afterwards. But that's just my opinion, you could be right even though I don't see it that way.
          If he didn’t want to give Wilder money why did he fight him instead which is more money for Wilder ? It wouldn’t even be his money it would be BT sports and Matchroom because they offered to go half in with any step aside offers to get that Joshua fight but Fury instead posted more fake news about a 20 million dollar bare knuckle fight with A.J to muddle any realistic talks on undisputed fight .

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            #6
            No, no "soap opera at HW".
            Just Fraudy ducking Usyk, which you're trying to spin by claiming soap opera šhit.

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              #7
              Originally posted by juggernaut666

              If he didn’t want to give Wilder money why did he fight him instead which is more money for Wilder ? It wouldn’t even be his money it would be BT sports and Matchroom because they offered to go half in with any step aside offers to get that Joshua fight but Fury instead posted more fake news about a 20 million dollar bare knuckle fight with A.J to muddle any realistic talks on undisputed fight .
              I think because he was contractually obligated to fight Wilder anyways. This way Wilder would have to earn the money, instead of receiving a mutlimilliom dollar paycheck for doing nothing. Additionally, Tyson doesn't like Wilder. This allowed him to beat up Wilder one more time and potentially spitefully not let Wilder have free money nor give him the chance to fight for undisputed.

              But again, you made a good point and I'm just stating my opinion. I could be way off, but I genuinely think we were very close to getting an undisputed fight back then.

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                #8
                Originally posted by James Hunt
                No, no "soap opera at HW".
                Just Fraudy ducking Usyk, which you're trying to spin by claiming soap opera šhit.

                It’s been going on for 5 years. The same failed negotiations, PR offers, media deadlines, it’s just constant bullsh** from all these guys. Whichever way you wanna spin it, whether it was Wilder vs AJ, Fury vs AJ or Fury vs Usyk, they all collectively failed to deliver the fight we wanted.

                You fanboys can continue to point fingers though, you’re part of the problem tbh.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  It’s been going on for 5 years. The same failed negotiations, PR offers, media deadlines, it’s just constant bullsh** from all these guys. Whichever way you wanna spin it, whether it was Wilder vs AJ, Fury vs AJ or Fury vs Usyk, they all collectively failed to deliver the fight we wanted.

                  You fanboys can continue to point fingers though, you’re part of the problem tbh.
                  Keep persuading yourself.

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                    Originally posted by BoxingParadigm

                    I think because he was contractually obligated to fight Wilder anyways. This way Wilder would have to earn the money, instead of receiving a mutlimilliom dollar paycheck for doing nothing. Additionally, Tyson doesn't like Wilder. This allowed him to beat up Wilder one more time and potentially spitefully not let Wilder have free money nor give him the chance to fight for undisputed.

                    But again, you made a good point and I'm just stating my opinion. I could be way off, but I genuinely think we were very close to getting an undisputed fight back then.
                    Juggs is one of them AJ fanatics, he infamously proclaimed Joshua as the “GOAT” a few years back.

                    He’s just trying to use Fury-Usyk falling apart as way to misguide some credibility to Joshua.

                    Very weird guy.

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