I'm sorry, but Haney's resume is trash

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  • Chollo Vista
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    #61
    Originally posted by LeOoze

    Had Buster kept the same level of performance he did against Tyson in his fights afterwards, we would probably give it a lot more praise. But we all know Buster just had a one-off. George Kam looked to be the same level of fighter he did against Teo. Regardless, you are talking about Holyfield, who has one of the longest and best resumes in boxing.

    But comparing to Haney and Tank, what wins does Tank have that are better than Haney's win over Kam?
    For one, Kambo was the weakest link at 135. Tank, Ryan Garcia, Haney, Loma, ECT would all beat Kambo.

    Barrios, Cruz, Romero and H. Garcia would beat Kambo. LSC probably not.

    Tanks victory over Pitbull Cruz is just as good if not better than Kambo. Couple that with the fact that Tank has far more breadth than Haney in the resume department

    1. Tank
    2. Loma
    3. Haney
    4. Kambo

    When it comes to resumes at 135

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #62
      Originally posted by LeOoze

      Had Buster kept the same level of performance he did against Tyson in his fights afterwards, we would probably give it a lot more praise. But we all know Buster just had a one-off. George Kam looked to be the same level of fighter he did against Teo. Regardless, you are talking about Holyfield, who has one of the longest and best resumes in boxing.

      But comparing to Haney and Tank, what wins does Tank have that are better than Haney's win over Kam?
      Just Kambosos as a boxer (not considering ***elry on the line)?

      Gamboa, Pedraza, Fonseca, Cuellar

      Haney's best opponent and victory is Jorge Linares.

      Beating Leo Santa Cruz > Beating that version of Linares (over the hill).

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        #63
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista

        For one, Kambo was the weakest link at 135. Tank, Ryan Garcia, Haney, Loma, ECT would all beat Kambo.

        Barrios, Cruz, Romero and H. Garcia would beat Kambo. LSC probably not.

        Tanks victory over Pitbull Cruz is just as good if not better than Kambo. Couple that with the fact that Tank has far more breadth than Haney in the resume department

        1. Tank
        2. Loma

        3. Haney
        4. Kambo

        When it comes to resumes at 135
        Nah. Swap those two.

        Lomachenko has fought more actually good opponents than anyone else at 135.

        Tank has like 1 good opponent and Cruz at the time wasn't known until he fought Tank the way he did. So, I won't count him.

        Lomachenko is the nm.1 guy even with a loss to Teofimo. Teofimo pretty much walks Haney's and Tank's resume at 135 and I don't rate Teofimo that great either. He's just better than the guys they've fought. Kambo isn't good. He just got a fluke win like Baldomir on Zab.

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          #64
          Originally posted by F l i c k e r

          Nah. Swap those two.

          Lomachenko has fought more actually good opponents than anyone else at 135.

          Tank has like 1 good opponent and Cruz at the time wasn't known until he fought Tank the way he did. So, I won't count him.

          Lomachenko is the nm.1 guy even with a loss to Teofimo. Teofimo pretty much walks Haney's and Tank's resume at 135 and I don't rate Teofimo that great either. He's just better than the guys they've fought. Kambo isn't good. He just got a fluke win like Baldomir on Zab.
          Well the loss to Teo does go a long way, but tell me who Loma has beaten at 135 that makes him better than Tank?

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          • maguirre
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            #65
            Seems this is about Diaz who is still Haney's legit win before going into the undisputed title. Which looked like anybody can beat Diaz including an inactive 35 year old Gesta.

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            • El Más Loco
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              #66
              Tank resume is basically a bunch of cherry picks besides Pedraza.
              Rollie basically talked himself into a fight....and previously gotten a gift vs some random Dominican.
              Cruz was relatively unknown so TMT figured that would be a easy fight.
              Barrios was a fake champion at 140 that was also the weakest link at that weight class.
              Santa Cruz was dragged up to that weight and sold his 0 for a TMT paycheck.....I'm pretty sure he only had 1 fight at that weight class before fighting Tank.

              Haney is at least out here begging for fights and jumping through hoops just to get those fights. Tank could have any fight he wants and always goes for the least risk highest reward fight.

              Now Tank is out here putting all these crazy stipulations vs another unproven fighter in Ryan Garcia.
              Last edited by El Más Loco; 03-19-2023, 04:41 PM.

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              • Smash
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                #67
                Originally posted by El Más Loco
                Santa Cruz was dragged up to that weight and sold his 0 for a TMT paycheck......
                santa is a generous guy but even he cant sell something he doesnt have

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                • Pac=Duran
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                  #68
                  Yes. But everyone’s is thesedays

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                  • tomhawq
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                    #69
                    Davis got too many people around whispering on his ears. He's supposed to be free of the Mayweather/Ellerbe clutches, but he's still not deciding on his own, thus all these stipulations and everything.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Brother Mouzone

                      Haney might not have the most fan friendly style , but I have grown to like him kid wants to fight the best .He was not given the world when he turned pro being on Top Rank cards on ESPN off the bat ,and like you mentioned he had to grind it out fighting in hole in walls in Mexico.He has a strong mental make up , they played a ton of games with him in Australia leading up to the first Kambos fight and he went on to dominate. Accepted all their terms for both fights as well.Much respect for the kid ..
                      Yup, who else has left the USA?

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