Vitali Klitschko Dominates Chris Arreola, TKO in Ten

[Samadafish]

what you talking about?tyson was never a great heavy weight,i think you got this **** twisted big time,yea no excauses what he done against evander but he was past his best by then anyway.he wasnt the best heavy weight ever but he was one of them

Great ? Y, cuz he KOed a lotta journey men in the 1st rnd ? He was only as good as his competition.

[jrosales13]

I get your points but i have to say something here... First of all "The Greatest of All Time" is not as great. Period. Before giving me some red, think that, calling one man The Greatest = spitting to the face of those who have done equally or even more in terms of achievement or to the sport of boxing...

I have two problems with Ali:
Young Alis` durability was questioned (watch the Cooper fight)...
Older Ali was tough (i think among the 5 toughest HW ever), but he took to many punches to the head...

Yeah, one can say nobody could hit young Ali, he was elusive and bla bla bla... First of all Ali wasn`t completely elusive (that`s just a myth), second the level of his opposition was incomparable to those who he fought during the 70th...

I don`t know who would win in the mythical fights between Ali and any other HW of the latter years, what i just want to say is: first of all he wasn`t unbeatable, secondly - any Ali fan wouldn`t like to see him in the ring, taking so many punches to the head he used to take, with the likes of Holmes, Bowe, Lewis, either Klitschko...

Actually i think Vitali is to vulnerable to cuts to go trough such fight... And maybe Wlads` chin isn`t so tough to take Alis` punches (which obviously weren`t lethal...)... And maybe Lewis was somekind slow for Ali... Who knows? Maybe i`m completely wrong, but please, before jumping on the "AliistheGOATsoSTFUignorantidiots bandwagon" watch his fights with more objectivity and notice how he struggled against the likes of Bugner for example...

P.S. That said i think you have a point and i respect your opinion.

P.S. Ali is top 5 HW of all times!

I think Ali is the greatest HW of all time. I don't that is spittin on any other HW. Is like I think Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest fighter of all time and I don't think that is spitting on Henry Armstrong or Willie Pep or even Ali.

And, About young Ali fight against Cooper I think that was a learning experience and he got better from that. They had a rematch and Ali didn't struggle in the rematch. And I also agree about the Bugner fight. Ali still won but didn't look nothing close to great. However, in the rematch it was a more decisive win for Ali.

If you ask me what was the best HW era of all time. I will say the the 70's and that decade belongs to Ali. Yes he has some losses in the 70's. But, He cameback and won the rematches. And, even fights against journeymans that he didn't look good against. He had rematches for those just to prove his greatness. If you look at every top fighter from the 70's Ali holds a victory over. Give me one top fighter from that era that Ali didn't fight?

I also think that the young Ali after the Cooper fight. Was the most elusive HW of all time. Like I said I think he learned a lot from that first Cooper. Cuz after that fight till he got suspended. I don't think he got hit at all. I might be wrong tho.

I would never call you no names and diss you in any fashion. I respect your opinion. I have no problem debating boxing against a smart boxing fan like yourself. We can disagree. And, I know you are a Klitschko fan. And, honestly I don't want to come off as a hater. I like the Klitschko bros. I respect them. Like I said before they are the most dominate HW of this era. And, they will not be appreciated until they retire. When they stop fighting fans will realize how truly good they are. However, IMO they not ATG's.

[jrosales13]

Great ? Y, cuz he KOed a lotta journey men in the 1st rnd ? He was only as good as his competition.

So is the Klitschko bros only as good as their competition aswell? They have only KO'd journeymans also.

[starjammer]

Vitali was excellent, excellent, excellent!

Chris did way better than I thought. wow

[Chase8400]

I think a skilled HW, with average (HW) punching power and good hand speed, and that is at least 6'4" and with the same reach as Vitali would UD him with relative ease. Watching Vitali fight is like watching someone pick on their little brother. He can throw arm punches at distance without regard for repercussions because he can simply lean back with his hip out and be fully out of range -- unless, the opponent is similarly tall with equal reach (ŕ la Lennox Lewis). If you press him with composure (e.g. behind an extended or double jab), he'll back pedal, leaning back with his hands down (or run ). If you get inside, he'll clinch or parry punches by blocking his opponents forearms with his own (not their punches, but their forearms). I don't think there is a rule against that in boxing (blocking like a karate fighter), but perhaps there should be. In any event, he ran, clinched, and parried like a karate fighter against a shorter slugger. The remainder of the fight, he kept distance and embarrassed Arreola. But, to me, it was unfair.

I don't think there is a question about his dominance in his fights. I think he may have very well defeated many previous HW champions with this technique. But I am not sure he is that skilled. Anyone can potshot when they have such physical advantages over there opponents (in the case of Arreola, he was faster, sharper (kudos), taller with a longer reach, and better conditioned (kudos again)), but against someone his size, and with skill, I think he gets exposed. He is eminently hittable, but only if you have the size to reach him. It would be great if a skilled shorter fighter had the style or formula to close distance, keep Vitali from running, and avoid the clinch and karate blocks. But, the current crop of average size HWs simply aren't skilled enough, and thus far haven't had the formula. The taller HWs with reach are generally rubbish. I think this is what people bemoan about the HW division.

As for now, to my mind, Vitali is the mean older brother of the HW division.

Bolded in blue: You failed miserably and I stopped reading there. Literally.
I guess you have ignored half of his career wins somehow.

[Dave Rado]

Joe Frazies would beat him. The way Joe would get low and and have the bob and weave going for him. And, he would get inside and land that huge left hook.

You obviously didn't see the two Frazier-Foreman fights. Okay he may have been complacent in the first fight, but not in the second. He just couldn't handle tall fighters with real power. And Vitali is far harder to hit cleanly and far more accurate than Foreman was.

[Iceta]

I honestly am skeptical about Vladimir Klitchko being able to beat Arreola. He can't handle pressure the way Vitali can.

[Dave Rado]

Get real. Vitaly is an ATG. Maybe not the greatest, but I think up there. I stick to it with no problem.

You should get real. He doesn't have the résumé to be considered an ATG. If he hadn't been injured for four years of his prime, or if he hadn't started his career when he was 25, or if he hadn't been in a such a historically weak division, maybe he'd have made it. But with all three of those factors, no chance. He's running out of time, and there are no hall of famers coming up for him to fight before he retires (unless Haye surprises everyone).

And claiming that he beat Lewis is ridiculous. It was a valid stoppage. The cut wasn't caused by a foul, it was caused by a legal punch. It was every bit as valid a win as if he'd been knocked cold.

[Chase8400]

You obviously didn't see the two Frazier-Foreman fights. Okay he may have been complacent in the first fight, but not in the second. He just couldn't handle tall fighters with real power. And Vitali is far harder to hit cleanly and far more accurate than Foreman was.

Hey Dave, how have you been? I hope well.

Klitschko looked amazing @ 38 huh? He is a bit unorthodox with his foot movement and style, but he is super effective. He put on a heavyweight version of a typical Mayweather clinic. He never allowed Cris to hit him clean other than maybe one punch and that one was about an inch from being blocked as well. I think somefighters have a sixth sense about being hit and their opponents offense. He seemed like he could always get a glove in front of Arreola's punches no matter where his hands were at , at the moment. He could be throwing a shot and have his right fully extended and get it back in place to block a left hook before it could land. That was brilliant. Arreola had good handspeed for a heavyweight and to shut him down like that is no easy task. I gaurantee Haye wouldn't have lasted ten in there.

Anyhow, take er easy.

[Dave Rado]

Or Vitali is just a better fighter.

You're completely missing the point. Just because you're the inferior fighter doesn't give you an excuse to come in out of shape, and nor does it mean you
wouldn't fight better if you were in shape than you would if you were out of shape.