Vitali Klitschko Dominates Chris Arreola, TKO in Ten

[bklynboy]

somebody needs to find that hbo director and punch him in the face.why do they keep showing the kids of fighters crying?what the **** is the matter with them?

Why do the parents bring their kids to the fights? **** I don't let my 5 year old watch boxing and all I'm doing is drinking beer.

[AnthrAxNSB]

I see you're outraged by the truth. There are apparently a lot of those who try to downplay their skills. And I'm way past 15, for the record.

I think a skilled HW, with average (HW) punching power and good hand speed, and that is at least 6'4" and with the same reach as Vitali would UD him with relative ease. Watching Vitali fight is like watching someone pick on their little brother. He can throw arm punches at distance without regard for repercussions because he can simply lean back with his hip out and be fully out of range -- unless, the opponent is similarly tall with equal reach (à la Lennox Lewis). If you press him with composure (e.g. behind an extended or double jab), he'll back pedal, leaning back with his hands down (or run ). If you get inside, he'll clinch or parry punches by blocking his opponents forearms with his own (not their punches, but their forearms). I don't think there is a rule against that in boxing (blocking like a karate fighter), but perhaps there should be. In any event, he ran, clinched, and parried like a karate fighter against a shorter slugger. The remainder of the fight, he kept distance and embarrassed Arreola. But, to me, it was unfair.

I don't think there is a question about his dominance in his fights. I think he may have very well defeated many previous HW champions with this technique. But I am not sure he is that skilled. Anyone can potshot when they have such physical advantages over there opponents (in the case of Arreola, he was faster, sharper (kudos), taller with a longer reach, and better conditioned (kudos again)), but against someone his size, and with skill, I think he gets exposed. He is eminently hittable, but only if you have the size to reach him. It would be great if a skilled shorter fighter had the style or formula to close distance, keep Vitali from running, and avoid the clinch and karate blocks. But, the current crop of average size HWs simply aren't skilled enough, and thus far haven't had the formula. The taller HWs with reach are generally rubbish. I think this is what people bemoan about the HW division.

As for now, to my mind, Vitali is the mean older brother of the HW division.

[Samadafish]

Oh no bro I have to disagree big time. Ali IMO is the greatest HW of all time. And, he was just too fast, too smart, and too good. Even before he suspended when he was a young Cassius Clay. Was super fast that I he woud of made Klitschko bro's quit and not by punishment. But, by embarrassment. Joe Frazies would beat him. The way Joe would get low and and have the bob and weave going for him. And, he would get inside and land that huge left hook.

The HW of the 70's was so deep that I don't think that the Klitscko's would top 10. I think in the 80's they could of been top 10. But, I also think the young Tyson. The late 80's version of Tyson. Would of beaten the Klitschko's. Again Tyson bob and weave style and very quick hands and 1 punch KO power would be too much for Klischko. And, maybe they could of been in the top 10 in the 90's. Maybe.

To be an ATG. You have to be great in every era. They would of not been great in every era. They probably would been top fighters in some era's but not every era's but not every. And, I am not trying to come out as me dissin the Klitschko's. I respect them. I think they are the most dominate of this era. And, I don't think the fans will truly appreciate them until they retire just Lennox Lewis. But, to say ATG is just going too far. And, Vitaly lossed to Lewis and Lewis is not a top 5HW I am not even sure if he is top 10. I will have to think about it. No man I am sorry I just can't see it.

Dude r u crazy ? Mike Tyson wuddnt even reach this guys face to drop him that's the same reason he got KOed by lennox & klitch was owning lennox b4 the cut. & yea Ali was great but I have to say fraizer beat him in 2 outta 3 fights doesn't meen he was the better boxer though

[DigitalBeast]

prime foreman, don't think so.. Maybe an Ali when he fought holmes..but a prime Ali vs this robot.!!! Gtfoh !! Ali would box his azz not only the 12 but the WHOLE 15 like he fought..throw in wlad rite after that too..just cuz he beats peter and gomez and then an overrated modern day real life rocky balboa tonite u actually THink he has a chance?? Think more outside the of 2000's era ,

Did he not dominate those fighters? Yes, he did. Did he not beat Lewis? Yes, he did, only wasn't given the chance to actually get the win. He was winning on the cards. Foreman tired himself with Ali. Doubt Vitaly would be doing the same. Ali didn't dominate in all of his fights himself. Not saying he wasn't great, because he was. I stick to what I said.

[DigitalBeast]

I think a skilled HW, with average (HW) punching power and good hand speed, and that is at least 6'4" and with the same reach as Vitali would UD him with relative ease. Watching Vitali fight is like watching someone pick on their little brother. He can throw arm punches at distance without regard for repercussions because he can simply lean back with his hip out and be fully out of range -- unless, the opponent is similarly tall with equal reach (à la Lennox Lewis). If you press him with composure (e.g. behind an extended or double jab), he'll back pedal, leaning back with his hands down (or run ). If you get inside, he'll clinch or parry punches by blocking his opponents forearms with his own (not their punches, but their forearms). I don't think there is a rule against that in boxing (blocking like a karate fighter), but perhaps there should be. In any event, he ran, clinched, and parried like a karate fighter against a shorter slugger. The remainder of the fight, he kept distance and embarrassed Arreola. But, to me, it was unfair.

I don't think there is a question about his dominance in his fights. I think he may have very well defeated many previous HW champions with this technique. But I am not sure he is that skilled. Anyone can potshot when they have such physical advantages over there opponents (in the case of Arreola, he was faster, sharper (kudos), taller with a longer reach, and better conditioned (kudos again)), but against someone his size, and with skill, I think he gets exposed. He is eminently hittable, but only if you have the size to reach him. It would be great if a skilled shorter fighter had the style or formula to close distance, keep Vitali from running, and avoid the clinch and karate blocks. But, the current crop of average size HWs simply aren't skilled enough, and thus far haven't had the formula. The taller HWs with reach are generally rubbish. I think this is what people bemoan about the HW division.

As for now, to my mind, Vitali is the mean older brother of the HW division.

He is how he is. It works. Ali danced around a lot as well. As does Mayweather. They're still great though.

[DigitalBeast]

Oh no bro I have to disagree big time. Ali IMO is the greatest HW of all time. And, he was just too fast, too smart, and too good. Even before he suspended when he was a young Cassius Clay. Was super fast that I he woud of made Klitschko bro's quit and not by punishment. But, by embarrassment. Joe Frazies would beat him. The way Joe would get low and and have the bob and weave going for him. And, he would get inside and land that huge left hook.

The HW of the 70's was so deep that I don't think that the Klitscko's would top 10. I think in the 80's they could of been top 10. But, I also think the young Tyson. The late 80's version of Tyson. Would of beaten the Klitschko's. Again Tyson bob and weave style and very quick hands and 1 punch KO power would be too much for Klischko. And, maybe they could of been in the top 10 in the 90's. Maybe.

To be an ATG. You have to be great in every era. They would of not been great in every era. They probably would been top fighters in some era's but not every era's but not every. And, I am not trying to come out as me dissin the Klitschko's. I respect them. I think they are the most dominate of this era. And, I don't think the fans will truly appreciate them until they retire just Lennox Lewis. But, to say ATG is just going too far. And, Vitaly lossed to Lewis and Lewis is not a top 5HW I am not even sure if he is top 10. I will have to think about it. No man I am sorry I just can't see it.

Also, regarding Frasier - did you see him having much luck with Foreman? Foreman was a slow, basic fighter. Vitaly is an even better boxer. Get real. Vitaly is an ATG. Maybe not the greatest, but I think up there. I stick to it with no problem.

[worldbestmcotto]

did he not dominate those fighters? Yes, he did. Did he not beat lewis? Yes, he did, only wasn't given the chance to actually get the win. He was winning on the cards. Foreman tired himself with ali. Doubt vitaly would be doing the same. Ali didn't dominate in all of his fights himself. Not saying he wasn't great, because he was. I stick to what i said.

coulda,shoulda,woulda... Viatli's best win,if u want to call it that,is a loss to lennox lewis.the only hof fighter he has ever faced and u calling him an atg..there aint no way he's top 10 of all time..besides lennox,he lost to i think chris byrd back in 2000 ,and quit..i dont care if he had a so called injury or not..so u can stick to wahtever u want..he aint beating no cassius clay..c'mon man be serious..

[NachoMan]

I see you're outraged by the truth. There are apparently a lot of those who try to downplay their skills. And I'm way past 15, for the record.

Well, then there is no excuse for your ignorance.

[niteshift]

Glad Chris' corner decided to stop the fight. Vitali was starting to land some real bombs and was turning it on. He found his second wind. I think Chris would have been stopped in the next round or last, had the fight continued.

Vitali is physically a dangerous fight for heavyweights, because he arm punches, doesn't put his full weight behind his shots and he hits his opponent so many damned times. And in a lot of cases, turns it up at the end. So it was wise for Chris' corner to stop the fight. He could have risked permanent damage.

[jrosales13]

You spell weird... Anyways, we can disagree, but it is how it is. I say at least Vitaly would hang with the best ever, if not KO them. By that I mean injury-free, young Vitaly. He was beating Lewis, until he was stopped. Yes, Lewis was kinda old, but so is Vitaly now. Look what he did to Arreola. Not to big up Arreola, but he was dominating one of the top contenders. Yes, Tyson could crack, but so can Vitaly. Yes, Tyson was quick, but he was still hittable. He was KO'd in his prime. Would you say the man responsible is better than Vitaly? Vitaly also has a great chin. Anyways, without an actual way to prove it(in the ring), we could argue for a while.

Like you said he was beating an old Lennox Lewis. And, an out of shape Lewis. And, Lewis still won. Is not like that cut was caused by a headbutt. It was caused by a punch. If that fight would of kept going Vitaly eye might of fallen out. That was a nasty cut. A prime Vitaly couldn't bet an old Lewis. And, by the way Lewis is a borderline ATG.

I saw what an old Vitaly did to Arreola. But, I also can imagine what Lewis would do to Arreola, or Bowe, or Holyfield, I am not even sure Arreola could beat the 90' version of Foreman. I think an Arreola-Moore fight would be interesting. Moore was better skilled but had a glass jaw. So if Arreola landed something it might be goodnight. But, this just the HWs of the 90's. And, I don't think that Arreola hangs. So why would I think that after this performance that Vitaly could hang with the 90's HW let alone ATG HW.

I was talking about the 80's version of Tyson. The Kevin Rooney trained version. That one who moved his head, the one who was 5'11 and got as low as 5'6 to get inside the reach, the one who had hand and foot speed, and the one who was a devastation body puncher. Also Vitaly like to fight with his mouth open. The 80 version Tyson would of broken his jaw.