Comments Thread For: Devin Haney: After I Beat Lomachenko I'll Get My Respect As P4P Best

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Tyson was doing this in the 80s hahaha. Chris Byrd was doing this in the 2000s.

Chris Byrd.
Now you’re desperate.

Tyson was actually #1 in 1989 so you’ve just disproved your own argument you silly pr***.

Even so, either of them undisputed at Cruiserweight? Either of them defeat every champion they’ve faced in their own backyard?

You’re really gonna question the credentials of Usyk? Pathetic man.

Are one of these weak ass n***** who can’t give a white fighter credit or something?

[buddyr]

Chris Byrd.
Now you’re desperate.

Tyson was actually #1 in 1989 so you’ve just disproved your own argument you silly pr***.

Even so, either of them undisputed at Cruiserweight? Either of them defeat every champion they’ve faced in their own backyard?

You’re really gonna question the credentials of Usyk? Pathetic man.

Are one of these weak ass n***** who can’t give a white fighter credit or something?

well technically, Chris byrd was indeed outboxing bigger opponents in the 2000s, as Usyk is, and neither was the #1 hw. So it is comparable. right or wrong? It's not about questioning credentials. And yes, my mistake, I forgot about Mike, but I am not in agreement with that either. I just don't feel hws should be on a pfp list because they are the king weight class that should beat everyone else in the world. It's all opinionated bs anyway. I don't make pfp lists because most fighters have legitimate claim to be #1

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Lomachenko is too small and has lost a step. A few years ago he might have beat Haney , now I don't think that he will. It should be an interesting fight. I'm looking forward to it.

[Chollo Vista]

Tank would knock Devin smooth out

[Oregonian]

Crawford was lineal Lightweight Champion, Undisputed Light Welterweight Champion and has made multiple defences of the Welterweight title. He’s achieved far more.

You conveniently left out Porter as well man. That’s a better win than Kambosos.

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Can you name the guys he beat at 140 to unify without Google?
Multiple defenses at 147 against nondescript guys except for Porter who had lost to Spence.
If Spence wad to fight any of the guys Crawford fought at 147, would you consider him great? I mean Spence could fight Avanesyan this year. Perhaps Rocha and then Broner. How would you feel about that?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

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Can you name the guys he beat at 140 to unify without Google?
Multiple defenses at 147 against nondescript guys except for Porter who had lost to Spence.
If Spence wad to fight any of the guys Crawford fought at 147, would you consider him great? I mean Spence could fight Avanesyan this year. Perhaps Rocha and then Broner. How would you feel about that?

Yeah Dulorme ranked top 10, Postol ranked #1 and Indongo ranked top 5. That’s probably a better run alone than Abdullaev and Kambosos. Even Crawford’s lightweight run was Burns in Scotland ranked top 5, Beltran ranked #2 and an undefeated Gamboa which many including bookmakers saw as a 50/50 fight. As for 147, it’s been disappointing, no doubt, but Porter was ranked top 5, Kavaliauskas, Avanesyan and Horn were all ranked top 10 so they weren’t complete nobodies like you’re suggesting. As I said, Crawford has still achieved far more than Haney has.

He won’t fight Broner, why would that even be possible? Stop with that BS. Broner isn’t even with those BLK clowns anymore and it looks like Crawford could go to GBP.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

well technically, Chris byrd was indeed outboxing bigger opponents in the 2000s, as Usyk is, and neither was the #1 hw. So it is comparable. right or wrong? It's not about questioning credentials. And yes, my mistake, I forgot about Mike, but I am not in agreement with that either. I just don't feel hws should be on a pfp list because they are the king weight class that should beat everyone else in the world. It's all opinionated bs anyway. I don't make pfp lists because most fighters have legitimate claim to be #1

Byrd was a desperate reach.

Feels like you’re desperate to discredit Usyk, which is laughable, he’s probably the most respectable fighter in boxing.

The point remains the same Haney beating an older, past prime Loma puts him nowhere near P4P #1. Still a solid win and if people wanna argue he’s top 10 P4P that’s reasonable but #1? No chance in hell.

[Rebelrbg]

I’m not removing credit at all. I’m just stating the fact that beating this faded version of Loma doesn’t make you P4P #1, is that really a disagreeable statement to you?

If 35 year old Crawford struggled with a guy like Rocha, people wouldn’t say he’s past his best? Of course they would.

Crawford didn't look great against Avanesyen, but Avanesyen ran into a punch for the KO because he stinks, but no one talked about it afterwards as if Bud was on the decline. I agree with you on the pound for pound part though.

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Undisputed lightweight champion Devin Haney and former three-division titlist Vasiliy Lomachenko are set to square off in a highly anticipated matchup on May 20. The only missing piece to the puzzle holding back the official announcement of the fight is if the event will be staged in Saudi Arabia or Las Vegas.
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It's more complex then that..

he would have to beat numerous other fights in other divisions and capture more championship belts in order to be considered up there as the pound for pound best tbh..

he has accomplished winning and retaining/unifying the belts in his division that is without doubt so there is respect for that..

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Crawford didn't look great against Avanesyen, but Avanesyen ran into a punch for the KO because he stinks, but no one talked about it afterwards as if Bud was on the decline. I agree with you on the pound for pound part though.

He dominated and scored a highlight reel KO. All 3 judges gave him all 5 rounds.