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  • #11
    Originally posted by Mr Giggles View Post
    Does whoever win enter the top 10 list of greatest fighters of ALL time? Usyk will have become undisputed champion in two weight categories and I believe that would be the first guy to ever do that. And fury would become undisputed and shown his versatility at being able to beat every style put in front of him
    NO.

    JFC, you guys overreact like MF.

    Deontay Wilder, a 40 year old Wlad, and an ex-cruiserweight that struggled with Delboy is not enough to put you as top 10 P4P in a world where guys like Robinson, Moore, Pep, Duran, and Armstrong existed.

    Maybe you could argue the top 10 HWs with Fury, but Anthony Joshua is not good enough to get Usyk there.

    And every fighter who won a belt before the 1960s was a undisputed champion.

    Henry Armstrong was undisputed in 3 divisions . . . . AT ONCE

    Robinson was undisputed in 2 divisions.

    The whole "undisputed" thing has just become a big deal because there's so many belts now.

    Originally posted by Silence View Post
    Is Usyk even top 50 P4P ATG? He ain't even top 3 P4P after Mayweather era. He was from CW which is the least significant division historically. If he beats Fury (which is near-impossible) he would be around top 30 ATG at most.

    Fury can become top 5 ATG in HW in terms of resume. He is already H2H GOAT in my book.​
    LMAO

    Originally posted by Silence View Post

    Ali, Lewis, Holyfield and a ***ing gap. Fury has the best resume today.
    Dude, Foreman beat, OBLITERATED 3 HOFs

    Mike Tyson obliterated two HOFs. (And before y'all claim Holmes was old, Klitschko was even older when Fury beat him, and Holmes went on to win and contend for a decade after Tyson beat him.)

    Joe Louis beat 8 HOFs

    Fury has the best resume today because there's no ATG fighters fighting today.

    Klitschkos a HOF and you may be able to argue Wilder with 9 defenses will get in because everybody with 9 has gotten in. If he beats Usyk that will be 2 HOFs beat, no better than Mike Tyson.
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    • #12
      Either man wins Fury will be a top 10 ATG British HW and if is Usyk he will be a top to ATG Ukraine HW. Don't thing they make the top 10 ATG

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      • #13
        Bro.....if we talking Top 10 HWs....with Klitschko being ranked between 10-8, I would place Usyk there due to his CW career transferring to HW.....Fury....i'm not so sure.

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        • #14
          Winner is top 3 HW all time.

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          • #15
            As soon as Fury knocks Usyk out, all these "Usyk fans" aka AJ fans will move on to the next flavour of the month and claim that they'll be the one to finally dethrone the GK.

            My bet is Joyce or Sanchez.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Mr Giggles View Post
              Does whoever win enter the top 10 list of greatest fighters of ALL time? Usyk will have become undisputed champion in two weight categories and I believe that would be the first guy to ever do that. And fury would become undisputed and shown his versatility at being able to beat every style put in front of him
              I don't think it represents that, I see it best HW in this era.

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              • #17
                Usyk is already ATG material. Unifying one division and winning 3 belts in the higher one is pretty impressive.

                Fury has Klitschko, Wilder and Whyte. Even if he beats Usyk, I don`t see him as an ATG heavyweight.

                He lacks more good wins over the guys like Joyce, Sanchez, Joshua etc.

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                • #18
                  ATGness is more than a W or 2....it's about the body of work.

                  There are no good HW's here to build up a decent resume.
                  Usyk is good and if Fury beats him and then retires with all the belts, still doesn't make up for a shltty resume.

                  Fury's claim to fame -
                  A non fight with Wlad...these cvnts gave compubox the night off
                  Going 2-1-0 with a one trick pony (dirty tactics were Fury's best weapons)
                  And Usyk.
                  Usyk would be his best win...if it was fair n square.
                  Most refs let Fury be as dirty as he wants.
                  Unfortunately, the voters will let Fury into the HOF.

                  Usyk's claim to fame -
                  A ''MW'' who climbed the divs and won the majority of the HW belts.
                  If he wins and retires, he will be 100 spots higher than Fury on the HOF list

                  Neither guy is an ATG

                  In fact, they wouldn't even make the ATG top 15 HWs -
                  Ali
                  Holmes
                  Lewis
                  Vit
                  Foreman
                  Holy
                  Wlad
                  Tua
                  Bowe
                  Mercer
                  Mike T
                  Louis
                  John Ruiz
                  Morrison
                  Maybe the winner lands here ?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
                    ATGness is more than a W or 2....it's about the body of work.

                    There are no good HW's here to build up a decent resume.
                    Usyk is good and if Fury beats him and then retires with all the belts, still doesn't make up for a shltty resume.

                    Fury's claim to fame -
                    A non fight with Wlad...these cvnts gave compubox the night off
                    Going 2-1-0 with a one trick pony (dirty tactics were Fury's best weapons)
                    And Usyk.
                    Usyk would be his best win...if it was fair n square.
                    Most refs let Fury be as dirty as he wants.
                    Unfortunately, the voters will let Fury into the HOF.

                    Usyk's claim to fame -
                    A ''MW'' who climbed the divs and won the majority of the HW belts.
                    If he wins and retires, he will be 100 spots higher than Fury on the HOF list

                    Neither guy is an ATG

                    In fact, they wouldn't even make the ATG top 15 HWs -
                    Ali
                    Holmes
                    Lewis
                    Vit
                    Foreman
                    Holy
                    Wlad
                    Tua
                    Bowe
                    Mercer
                    Mike T
                    Louis
                    John Ruiz
                    Morrison
                    Maybe the winner lands here ?
                    Stop the cap. If Fury wins, he will be top 5 ATG in HW.

                    Klitschko
                    3x Wilder
                    Usyk
                    Whyte
                    3x Chisora
                    Wallin
                    Cunningham

                    That's some ***in serious resume.

                    In HW history Ali, Lewis and Holyfield are best in terms of resume. There is a huge margin after them. Fury can sit on there.

                    In terms of H2H, he is already best ever imo. Only Lewis and Vitali would be competitive.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Silence View Post

                      Stop the cap. If Fury wins, he will be top 5 ATG in HW.

                      Klitschko
                      3x Wilder
                      Usyk
                      Whyte
                      3x Chisora
                      Wallin
                      Cunningham

                      That's some ***in serious resume.

                      In HW history Ali, Lewis and Holyfield are best in terms of resume. There is a huge margin after them. Fury can sit on there.

                      In terms of H2H, he is already best ever imo. Only Lewis and Vitali would be competitive.
                      If that is the resume of a HOFer/ATG then everyone is a HOFer/ATG

                      I will give Fury the benefit of the doubt with some LIMITED H2H Fantasy ''fights''

                      Fury should have it easy vs the likes of Rocky and other small ''HW'' from the 50's and 60's.
                      Once he starts facing guys Ali fought, it's a wrap.
                      Same with Usyk, although he wouldn't need dirty tactics to win.

                      The Wlad Fury AND AJ fought was the shell of himself.
                      He was not going to beat any ''legit'' HW
                      Although I could have seen him beating....
                      Dum Boy, Otto, Cunny, Whyte

                      Bruh, there is nothing special about Dum Boy, Otto, Cunny, Whyte
                      Wilder is able to thrive because this is a terrible era.

                      I'm surprised Fury fans have the gall to use Wilder as a name
                      Up until the very minute they fought, you guys were saying his resume was pure shlt and all he had was one punch.
                      How can Wilder's resume ALL OF A SUDDEN be worth bragging about ?!?!?

                      That's like May fans saying Gatti is a good name to have.
                      Or Pac fans saying Rios is a good name to have.

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