Regis Prograis vs Blair Cobbs (Hypothetical)

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  • TheIronMike
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    #11
    Originally posted by Escorpion

    Interesting take, I am assuming that you favor Prograis his odds over the likes of Rocha and Benn yes?

    Regis just turned 34 years old so he might actually move up sooner than most think.
    Rocha....possibly competative, but I think Prograis comes on late.

    Prograis dominates a non-roided Benn, who I truly believe started doping after the first Peynaud fight.

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    • Str8.2.Da.Point
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      #12
      Originally posted by Escorpion

      Ouch , I didn't even think Cobbs won, I just tried to apply an argument to see if the size difference would even the odds.
      Regis is not as small as one might think. It's similar to Crawford when he was fighting at 140lbs. Everyone claimed Crawford was too small for the welterweight division only for him to move up and be stronger at that division than he was at 135/140. Remember when he fought Diaz, they both entered the ring as middleweights with Crawford being 158lbs and Diaz at 162lbs on fight night after weighing in at 140 the night before. Regis is the same height as Crawford. Cobbs is 5'11"....an inch taller than Julius Indongo. A fighter both Regis and Crawford put away in 2/3 rounds.

      Let's also not forget (or maybe we all have because the fight was so quick), Regis put Aaron Herrara away in 1 round. Aaron is 6' foot and fought at 147lbs half his career.

      Now obviously Cobbs has a different approach in the ring than the names I pointed out, but again, Cobbs is not known for his power so it's going to come down to him being able to outbox Regis and I doubt that will happen.

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        #13
        Originally posted by TheIronMike

        Rocha....possibly competative, but I think Prograis comes on late.

        Prograis dominates a non-roided Benn, who I truly believe started doping after the first Peynaud fight.


        I think Rocha would present similar issues as his fellow southpaw Zepeda albeit I do think he is overall less skilled; he is however physically stronger so he likely be winning more rounds and likely would go the distance due to his experience against Cobbs and Ellis.

        Impressively enough Regis won 10 rounds out of 11 against Chon Zepeda. Despite being caught with a kitchen sink once in a while, he demonstrated a good chin and finished him off with his impressive power.
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        Also kinda su****ious that Benn at 21-22 years old he struggled with this guy twice, getting battered until he was unrecognizable. Then a few years late, he becomes so explosive that he easily disposed of Chris Van Harden and Chris Algeri in two rounds.


        Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

        Regis is not as small as one might think. It's similar to Crawford when he was fighting at 140lbs. Everyone claimed Crawford was too small for the welterweight division only for him to move up and be stronger at that division than he was at 135/140. Remember when he fought Diaz, they both entered the ring as middleweights with Crawford being 158lbs and Diaz at 162lbs on fight night after weighing in at 140 the night before. Regis is the same height as Crawford. Cobbs is 5'11"....an inch taller than Julius Indongo. A fighter both Regis and Crawford put away in 2/3 rounds.

        Let's also not forget (or maybe we all have because the fight was so quick), Regis put Aaron Herrara away in 1 round. Aaron is 6' foot and fought at 147lbs half his career.

        Now obviously Cobbs has a different approach in the ring than the names I pointed out, but again, Cobbs is not known for his power so it's going to come down to him being able to outbox Regis and I doubt that will happen.
        Yeah but that's Crawford though, a P4P fighter. There are also cases like Danny Garcia or Robert Guerrero who moved up, beat some noticeable names but struggled against the top.

        Herrera never won against any opponent of note. Julius Indongo in the other hand defeated Ricky Burns who was coming from two big wins in Kiryl Relikh and Michele di Rocco during his four-win streak, Indongo also defeated an unbeaten opponent in Eduard Troyanovsky (25-0).

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        I also disagree with the fact that Cobbs has no power, it is one of the very few things he has going for him. However, Regis already demonstrated having a very good chin against world champions in Zepeda and Taylor, doubt Cobbs could finish him and would get easily outclassed.

        Likely Stopped if Rocha pulled it off.
        Last edited by Malvado; 03-14-2023, 03:01 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Escorpion


          I think Rocha would present similar issues as his fellow southpaw Zepeda albeit I do think he is overall less skilled; he is however physically stronger so he likely be winning more rounds and likely would go the distance due to his experience against Cobbs and Ellis.

          Impressively enough Regis won 10 rounds out of 11 against Chon Zepeda. Despite being caught with a kitchen sink once in a while, he demonstrated a good chin and finished him off with his impressive power.
          prograis-zepeda-compubox-punch-stats.jpg

          y8z9cvS.gifngUqLNq.gif

          Also kinda su****ious that Benn at 21-22 years old he struggled with this guy twice, getting battered until he was unrecognizable. Then a few years late, he becomes so explosive that he easily disposed of Chris Van Harden and Chris Algeri in two rounds.




          Yeah but that's Crawford though, a P4P fighter. There are also cases like Danny Garcia or Robert Guerrero who moved up, beat some noticeable names but struggled against the top.

          Herrera never won against any opponent of note. Julius Indongo in the other hand defeated Ricky Burns who was coming from two big wins in Kiryl Relikh and Michele di Rocco during his four-win streak, Indongo also defeated an unbeaten opponent in Eduard Troyanovsky (25-0).

          prograi1.jpg

          I also disagree with the fact that Cobbs has no power, it is one of the very few things he has going for him. However, Regis already demonstrated having a very good chin against world champions in Zepeda and Taylor, doubt Cobbs could finish him and would get easily outclassed.

          Likely Stopped if Rocha pulled it off.
          We agree for the most part. Obviously when talking about match ups previous examples aren't always the formula for the current ones. Especially when using generational talents like Crawford as an example.

          You bring up Danny.....he confuses me honestly. He was known to have exceptional power with decent IQ at 140lbs and has the measures to grown into being a legit super ww yet he has done nothing significant after leaving the 140lb division.

          Also, I wasn't saying that Cobbs has no power, it's just not something that one would associate with his presence in the ring. Being that he went the distance with Moe Hooker and never really put him on the back pedal shows that he has much to be desired being that Hooker though strong himself, doesn't have the frame to take legit power at 147.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

            We agree for the most part. Obviously when talking about match ups previous examples aren't always the formula for the current ones. Especially when using generational talents like Crawford as an example.

            You bring up Danny.....he confuses me honestly. He was known to have exceptional power with decent IQ at 140lbs and has the measures to grown into being a legit super ww yet he has done nothing significant after leaving the 140lb division.

            Also, I wasn't saying that Cobbs has no power, it's just not something that one would associate with his presence in the ring. Being that he went the distance with Moe Hooker and never really put him on the back pedal shows that he has much to be desired being that Hooker though strong himself, doesn't have the frame to take legit power at 147.

            Disagree about DSG being a full-fledged light middleweight, he had one performance at that weight class, and while he still demonstrated being physically at his prime, he really struggled to hurt a shot welterweight in Jose Benavidez Jr.

            It would be nightmare for him to face the likes of Castano, Tszyu, Fundora and Charlo.

            Also true, even with the knock downs he failed to capitalize on it to the extent that a shot Hooker switched up the pace and battered him in the later rounds. Still think that Cobb's power is one few attributes going on for him but obviously is not enough to win him the fights, so agree to disagree.

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            Last edited by Malvado; 03-15-2023, 04:24 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Escorpion


              Disagree about DSG being a full-fledged light middleweight, he had one performance at that weight class, and while he still demonstrated being physically at his prime, he really struggled to hurt a shot welterweight in Jose Benavidez Jr.

              It would be nightmare for him to face the likes of Castano, Tszyu, Fundora and Charlo.

              Also true, even with the knock downs he failed to capitalize on it to the extent that a shot Hooker switched up the pace and battered him in the later rounds. Still think that Cobb's power is one few attributes going on for him but obviously is not enough to win him the fights, so agree to disagree.

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              Ok.....help me out here. Where did I call Danny a full fledged light middleweight?

              After his bout vs Benavidez, I would laugh at the faces of anyone who attempts to throw him in the ring vs Fundora, Castano, Tszyu, or Charlo.

              And I got you with Cobb's.....again I'm not suggesting that power is a weakness in his skill set, just saying that when people analyze his work in the ring, his power is not a bullet that they spend a lot of time on.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

                Ok.....help me out here. Where did I call Danny a full fledged light middleweight?

                After his bout vs Benavidez, I would laugh at the faces of anyone who attempts to throw him in the ring vs Fundora, Castano, Tszyu, or Charlo.

                And I got you with Cobb's.....again I'm not suggesting that power is a weakness in his skill set, just saying that when people analyze his work in the ring, his power is not a bullet that they spend a lot of time on.
                I might have misinterpreted this quote thinking that you stated that DSG has successfully physically developed to compete at 154, which I disagree with the notion considering that his best attributes didn't translate well at Welterweight and even less at Light Middleweight:

                "You bring up Danny.....he confuses me honestly. He was known to have exceptional power with decent IQ at 140lbs and has the measures to grown into being a legit super ww yet he has done nothing significant after leaving the 140lb division."

                Also about Cobbs, I am just saying, his power and athleticism are his most noticeable advantages. Whenever he is hypothetically pitted with a recognizable name by the media, it tends to be one his highest selling points for having a puncher's chance besides his personality.

                Basically, he is the Rolly Romero of 147.
                Last edited by Malvado; 03-16-2023, 09:12 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Escorpion
                  As dumb as this match up might sound let me put down some context:

                  Maurice Hooker and Regis Prograis had amateur history together and had bad blood, in April 17, 2020 they were going to fight at a catchweight of 143 but due to Hooker having difficulty making light welterweight he pulled out as stated by his former trainer Brian McIntyre.

                  After having a comeback fight by a 1 round TKO win and receiving a loss to Vergil Ortiz Jr. He went on to a hiatus for a year and had lost a close friend, having lost motivation, came overweight and underperformed, looking sluggish in his comeback against Cobbs.

                  How would Regis Prograis fair against Blair Cobbs if he were to move up to 147 right now?

                  Blair Cobbs is currently 18-1 with 10 knockouts while Regis Prograis is 28-1 with 24 knockouts.
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                    #19
                    The Mighty Regis would stop him

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                      #20
                      Prograis is excellent

                      He would smash Cobbs

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